[Noisebridge-discuss] Re: Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 46

Tracy Jacobs kinetical at comcast.net
Wed Mar 11 07:11:31 UTC 2009 

Mitch,

I will make the sign!

I was wondering about computer programs at Noisebridge.  Are there  
some good graphics and maybe video programs available on shared  
computers?  Sorry if that's a dumb question, I live in Oakland and  
I've only been there once:)

Tracy
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>   1. "Stuff" for Noisebridge (Bill Nye)
>   2. Re: Wednesday: sensory substitution hangout (Mikolaj Habryn)
>   3. Re: Be Excellent sign? (Asheesh Laroia)
>   4. Re: ML Wednesday: code up a neuron! (Christoph Maier)
>   5. Re: Drink Restock! (steve camuti)
>   6. Re: Drink Restock! (Christie Dudley)
>   7. RE: Be Excellent sign? (Mitch Altman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:27:15 -0700
> From: Bill Nye <nye2 at email.com>
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] "Stuff" for Noisebridge
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
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> Hello, due to the location of the dorkbot Wednesday,
> I have to drive to SF.  So I thought I would
> bring over some "stuff" for Noisebridge:
>   - large capacitors
>   - small electronics
>   - a strip of R45 jacks
>   - 2 old TV yoke coils
>   - 4 basic barstools
>
> I know the "stuff wanted" page only mentions metal
> folding chairs, but these stools have a very small
> footprint good for crowds.  Also, when there is not
> enough table space, people could sit on these behind
> the normal chairs, to observe others working.
>
> Finally, I have this Audio Choice 100W Portable PA
> system that I actually bought for $199 from
> musiciansfriend.com.  It has 2 12x24 rugged speakers
> and the mixer/amp unit. Hardly ever used (I say very
> sadly). Handles 1/4" and XLR inputs.  Possibly people
> could borrow it for 1 or 2-day external events, if
> we had a sign-out sheet.
>
> I offer the "warranty" that if anything is not
> wanted, I will take it back (or get rid of it). :-)
>   -Bill
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:34:27 -0700
> From: Mikolaj Habryn <dichro at rcpt.to>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Wednesday: sensory substitution
> 	hangout
> To: Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
> Cc: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
> 	<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Message-ID:
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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Rachel McConnell  
> <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>> Mikolaj Habryn wrote:
>>> I have a small bag of http://www.solarbotics.com/products/vpm2/ -  
>>> one
>>> of the open questions is just how large a motor you're going to need
>>> to be able to feel it through any given set of clothing. Empirical
>>> testing, ahoy.
>>
>> The vibration of a pager motor is felt quite clearly through layers  
>> of
>> pillow fluff.  On the head, through (say) a knit hat, no problem at  
>> all.
>
> That's true, but I guess I had in mind what levels of modulation you
> could distinguish. Let's say, for example, that you wanted to signal
> more than just direction. If, instead of just vibrating north, you're
> signalling a vector to another person (logical extrapolation of all
> these social location maps+GPS services, right?), you might want to
> also signal distance and how long it has been since they moved.
>
> One of those you can signal with intensity of vibration, but the other
> one you'd have to get more creative (not that it's entirely clear that
> you have a large range of intensities available; for a given size of
> motor on the other side of a given piece of clothing, you might only
> be able to feel it vibrate at >80% power, for example).
>
> More creative might mean signaling with multiple motors, or trying to
> pulse the motor in a detectable way, or something else similar, and
> some of these might work better with some motors than others. And,
> best of all, brains might do better at integrating some types of
> signal than others. Maybe it's easy to train a different perception of
> pulsed vs continuous then it is to train for a combination of two
> motors vs one. I think it's going to be just fascinating trying to
> find out :)
>
> m.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Asheesh Laroia <noisebridge at asheesh.org>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Be Excellent sign?
> To: Ani Niow <avniow at gmail.com>
> Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903101837110.4903 at vellum.laroia.net>
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> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Ani Niow wrote:
>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/vniow/3344371675/
>> Dude.
>
> (what does mine say?)
>
> Sweet!
>
> (what does mine say?)
>
> Dude!
>
> (what does mine say?)
>
> -- Asheesh.
>
> -- 
> Are you sure the back door is locked?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:11:03 -0700
> From: Christoph Maier <cm.hardware.software.elsewhere at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] ML Wednesday: code up a neuron!
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
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> On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:05 -0700, Josh Myer wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 02:56:41PM -0700, Mikolaj Habryn wrote:
>>
>>> I think most languages will look similar if written in accessible
>>> style. Real Python would say:
>>>
>>
>> That's why I wrote the ruby in the most naive form possible.  It's
>> like pseudocode with a slightly different syntax.
>>
>>> import operator
>>>
>>> def dot_product(a, b):
>>>  return sum(map(operator.mul, a, b))
>>>
>>
>> I hate to yield the elegance plaque to python, but, well, it looks
>> like I must.  That's just nice, clean functional code.
>>
>> The most functional version in ruby I could pull together:
>>
>> def dot_product(a, b)
>>  a.zip(b).inject(0.0) { |s, x| s+x[0]*x[1] }
>> end
>>
>>> Which just goes to show that most high-level languages look the same
>>> when written in real style too ;)
>>>
>>
>> Sadly, ruby looks less like real languages than python does here.
>> Drat.  It does smell kind of like a handicapped lisp, at least?
>
> Speaking of handicapped Lisp, what is a poor Mathematica addict  
> supposed
> to do?
> The Dot[] function looks like this:
>
> .
>
> (as in
> DuNervst = Function[{gewichte,stimuli},Tanh[gewichte.stimuli]]
> )
>
> Ok, this is a commercial program and kind of off topic here.
> Mea maxima
> [ http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima_25.html#SEC85 ]
> culpa.
>
> Hope I can make it from San Diego in time for tomorrow night!
>
> Christoph
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:41:02 -0700
> From: steve camuti <mrcamuti at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Drink Restock!
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
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> I have been putting my monies in the donation box near the door.  
> According
> to Mitch, the treasurer, after our last meeting it sounded like they  
> are
> inter-related anyway...
> -Steve
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>  
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:46:42AM -0800, Shannon Clark wrote:
>>> I suspect an issue is that the payment box is seperated from the
>>> kitchen area so dropping money into it takes a second act & it is  
>>> easy
>>> to forget to do so.
>>
>> No it's not -- the drinks fridge has explicit instructions on it to  
>> the
>> cash can, which is in the cupboard.
>>
>>> 2. Put a drinks payment box in the kitchen and very clearly market  
>>> and
>>> visible. Ideally placed such that it doesn't get covered up (not  
>>> sure
>>> where this would work as the kitchen is getting cluttered)
>>
>> It's fairly visible, I think...
>>
>> -andy
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> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:01:58 -0700
> From: Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Drink Restock!
> To: steve camuti <mrcamuti at gmail.com>
> Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
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> They eventually wind up in the same place, but they take a different  
> route
> to get there.  Everything should be really clear with the new signs  
> that
> have been posted.
>
> Christie
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM, steve camuti <mrcamuti at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> I have been putting my monies in the donation box near the door.  
>> According
>> to Mitch, the treasurer, after our last meeting it sounded like  
>> they are
>> inter-related anyway...
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:46:42AM -0800, Shannon Clark wrote:
>>>> I suspect an issue is that the payment box is seperated from the
>>>> kitchen area so dropping money into it takes a second act & it is  
>>>> easy
>>>> to forget to do so.
>>>
>>> No it's not -- the drinks fridge has explicit instructions on it  
>>> to the
>>> cash can, which is in the cupboard.
>>>
>>>> 2. Put a drinks payment box in the kitchen and very clearly  
>>>> market and
>>>> visible. Ideally placed such that it doesn't get covered up (not  
>>>> sure
>>>> where this would work as the kitchen is getting cluttered)
>>>
>>> It's fairly visible, I think...
>>>
>>> -andy
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err.
> ~ Mohandas K. (Mahatma) Gandhi
>
> If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people  
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> they do not want to hear.
> ~ George Orwell
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> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:55:56 -0700
> From: Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Noisebridge-discuss] Be Excellent sign?
> To: Ani Niow <avniow at gmail.com>, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
> Cc: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
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> :)  !!Yay!!
>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:43:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Be Excellent sign?
> From: avniow at gmail.com
> To: shannon at scatter.com
> CC: maltman23 at hotmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/vniow/3344371675/
>
>
> Dude.
>
>
>
>
> -Ani
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>  
> wrote:
>
> What we need is a life-sized cardboard cutout of Keanu Reeves with a  
> speech=
> -balloon of it coming out of his mouth.
>
> --S
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Background:
> =
>
> There is a fairly new international organization called  
> Hackerspaces.org th=
> at exists to promote starting and continuation of hacker spaces  
> around the =
> world.  Every month they have a conference call where anyone can  
> join in.  =
> This month's call was yesterday, and I gave an update on Noisebridge.
> =
>
> =
>
> When I mentioned our one rule:  Be excellent to one another, someone  
> on the=
> call asked if we had a sign that sez this at our space.  Anyone  
> think this=
> is a cool idea and want to make a cool sign?  Thoughts?
> =
>
> =
>
> Mitch.
> =
>
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