[Noisebridge-discuss] Help finding mineral oil

John Menerick john.menerick at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 23:45:01 UTC 2009


I'm attempting to make a submersive computer case.  I have all of the  
parts gathered except for 1 major critical piece: coolant.

I have been hunting around the local vets/pharmacies for 6 gallons of  
mineral oil.  Either they have called me a nut job or suspect me  
playing a prank on them.

Does anyone know where I can purchase 6 gallons of mineral oil without  
having to shell out $40+ for shipping?



John Menerick
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On Mar 11, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:

> Rick Wesson wrote:
>> <wet blanket>
>
> Awww, You're not a wet blanket. But you should come to see the space
> more often! You'd understand that while totally valid, you shouldn't  
> be
> fearful of the lasers. Love the lasers. :-)
>
>>
>> NB: management/board
>>
>>  Whats your liability insurance cover in the case someone points a  
>> IR lazer at
>>  a reflective material and blindes one or more ppl?
>>
>
> I do not know the status of coverage for lasers blinding people in a
> freak accident. Perhaps David knows off hand from his discussions with
> the insurance agent? David?
>
>> Is NB incorporated or is the board and its members personally  
>> liabable?
>>
>
> We're incorporated and we're insured. Additionally, the board has
> liability insurance. I'm unsure if we're covered for this specific  
> issue
> and someone should check.
>
>> since there is a well documented email thread on the topic of  
>> safety, me thinks
>> you should think real hard about bringing such devices by for  
>> untrained hands to
>> play with at their whim.
>>
>> </wet blanket>
>
> In my humble opinion, if I may be so bold:
>
> You enter Noisebridge at your own risk. We have all accepted this,
> especially the members who go through a... "vigorous process" to
> participate in our consensus process. Those that do not accept this
> should steer clear of our little lab.
>
> Please do not misunderstand me, I do not wish to suggest that
> Noisebridge is inherently dangerous. Rather, I wish to convey that
> you're the one responsible for your own safety. Just as you are in the
> rest of the world. We all try to keep the place awesome and safe (as  
> you
> pointed out, we do have a lot of discussions on safety) but nothing is
> perfect. No life guard is posted for duty, no one is paid to keep  
> things
> within any specific definition of deny-by-default rule set. People  
> could
> be powering up lasers in the space right now (I bet they are with  
> their
> CD/DVD-ROM drives!).
>
> While I'm certain that there are many things that could be viewed as a
> bad idea, I do not think that anyone should think too hard about
> *bringing* a laser to the space. Or a laser diode. Or mirrors.
>
> Just as I don't think it's a big deal if people bring in fire art
> equipment, how it's used is important. We try to keep the fire outside
> in the street, where it belongs. :-)
>
> In this case, it almost goes without saying that people shouldn't  
> blind
> each other or put people in direct or indirect danger. I assume by
> default that this is the case for people who use the space.
>
> I think people who use the laser should think long and hard before  
> they
> power it up. I'm fairly certain that they will and they (not I)  
> started
> this thread. Perhaps they'll (wink, wink; nudge, nudge) teach a  
> workshop
> on how to safely use the lasers?
>
> We have lots of equipment that, if misused, could seriously harm  
> people.
>> From photo chemicals to RF equipment; the phrase that comes to mind  
>> is:
> "Responsibility to the responsible." We'll ventilate the dark room and
> we'll shield the RF when needed; I don't see why the lasers will be  
> any
> different, the people involved are the same reasonable and responsible
> people that have made and keep the space totally amazing.
>
> With that said: Don't look into the lasers with your last good  
> remaining
> eye!
>
> Best,
> Jake
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