[Noisebridge-discuss] Another DIYbio thread!

[Shannon Lee]

Praveen,

You rock.

--S

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your input Josh -- I've been talking to the people at DIY
> Bio, and here's the story:
>
> 1) I was out of town this weekend, but had talked with and got a
> consensus about diy bio experiment (some of whom are slated to become
> nb members), that followed the safety protocols here:
>    https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Lab_Safety_and_Ethics_Page
>
> 2) It seems that there was a mixup in communication somehow and we
> have a refridgerator that was being used for the experiment sitting at
> noisebridge.  How this happened, I'm not quite sure, but I'm probing
> around right now to see when we can get it out of there (I haven't
> been to the space yet, is it obstructing things?) .
>
> 3) DIY Bio has potentially found a lab space in the north bay which
> will make some of these issues moot, but it looks like a discussion is
> long overdue for some of this stuff so hope to see you all there
> tomorrow
>
> 4) I think that there have been a minority of people involved that may
> be being a bit not so respecting of the noisebridge space
> (unintentionally), and I will have a nice friendly talk with everyone
> involved about the be excellent vibes to everyone at diybio....
>
> 5) overall, I think there are /communication/ issues involved, and in
> the future I will definately be making sure that anyone who starts
> working at noisebridge is really familiar with the ethics of
> noisebridge and has read the wiki.
>
> Cheers,
> Praveen
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com> wrote:
> > My dearest Noisebridge,
> >
> > DIYbio hasn't been the most ideal collaborator, I know.  I understand
> > that this is frustrating and generally Not Excellent, but other people
> > have brought that up, and the discussion can go on in that thread.
> > For now, let's talk about you and your feelings.
> >
> > I'd like you to think about how you feel about DIYbio.  We'll
> > definitely be discussing the DIYbio thing at an upcoming Tuesday
> > meeting, and the people who use 83c should be prepared to ensure their
> > positions are represented.  This includes both members and
> > non-members, since safety is a universal concern.  Non-members can't
> > block, but they are encouraged to discuss, and might find members who
> > will proxy for them.
> >
> > The critical question to ask yourself: Am I comfortable sharing my
> > space with DIYbio?  If you answer "yes, with no provisions," I worry,
> > but, great!  You're done, and can stop reading this thread.
> > Personally, I need more detail.  To wit, here are the questions I've
> > been asking myself:
> >
> > Am I comfortable with:
> > 1. what DIYbio wants to store here?
> > 2. how DIYbio is going to store it?
> > 3. what DIYbio is doing with these things?
> > 4. how DIYbio is going about these things (esp. cleanup)?
> > 5. that DIYbio will follow the processes/protocols governing "how"?
> >
> > If I am comfortable with these criteria, I should be comfortable with
> > DIYbio sharing the space.  (Am I missing anything from my list?)
> >
> > For the DIYbio people: please think about how you'd inform
> > Noisebridgers about each of these areas, and how to assuage any
> > concerns they may raise.
> >
> > This kind of breakdown will let us focus our discussions, and, more
> > importantly, allow us to make iterative progress towards mutual
> > understanding.  For instance, once everyone is comfortable with #1, we
> > don't need to talk about the samples again (until they change).
> > --
> > Josh Myer   650.248.3796
> >  josh at joshisanerd.com
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