[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Department of Homeland Security

[Shannon Lee]

I don't like the fact that it buys into the idea that a license of some kind
is required; it feels like they've changed the game inside everybody's head,
and this is playing along with that.

--S

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com>wrote:

> For the purposes of "political" protest, I find this interesting.
>
> However, you'd have to make it like they make "funny money" - Stuff that
> says "no value" and "not legal tender" all over it, etc.  I think I might
> also place clearly and promienently on the "document" that it grants the
> bearer no additional rights other than those which they already have.  That
> alone should say something about what the document is good for.
>
> Christie
>
> ---
> "I want us all to think about new and creative ways to engage young people
> in science and engineering, whether it's science festivals, robotics
> competitions, fairs that encourage young people to create and build and
> invent -- to be makers of things, not just consumers of things."
>
> - President Obama in address to National Academy of Sciences April 27, 2009
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, C C <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You really think that because it actually isn't a real government issued
>> document that the cops won't go around and tsar you?  I mean, hell, you can
>> get into a 'lot of trouble' already even without getting the look alike
>> government issued document.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> What does "in trouble" mean? As far as I can tell, it's not illegal. It
>>> may look very close to a government issued document, but if it doesn't claim
>>> to be one, and isn't impersonating one....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, C C <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even though it sounds like an interesting idea, I feel like this stuff
>>>> would get you in trouble mad fast.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw this on Boingboing:
>>>>> http://jwz.livejournal.com/1046225.html?nc=23
>>>>> (DHS photography license)
>>>>>
>>>>> and thought.... if the license were not a US government document, it
>>>>> would be totally legal.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if we formed a Noisebridge Department of Homeland Security, and
>>>>> issued our own legal licenses allowing us to do things that DHS is saying we
>>>>> can't? It's not forging a government document, because no such document
>>>>> exists. It's not impersonating a government employee, because we would be
>>>>> doing it under the guise of Noisebridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how wise it would be to present a NBDHS photography
>>>>> license to a law enforcement officer and expect to not make him mad, but
>>>>> it's a very interesting legal question.
>>>>>
>>>>> aestetix
>>>>>
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Shannon Lee
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