[Noisebridge-discuss] Access control and the DJ booth

[Jacob Appelbaum]

Sai Emrys wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Matt Peterson <matt at peterson.org> wrote:
>> The shelfs
>> haven't scaled too well and leave very 'security' options - short of a
>> postit note (which should be enough for our 'do awesome' member
>> guidelines, right?)
> 
> FWIW, I feel that a postit note (or somewhat more organized equivalent
> like my cc4stuff stickers idea) ought to be completely sufficient. I
> personally have no problem simply relying on social-contract civility;
> I don't believe that one needs to have "Rules" and "Policing".

Make some stickers and run with it. Please don't force other people to
follow your ideas, if it catches on, people will do it by choice. Rubin
did this with his view of bins and guess what? It works! Almost everyone
uses a bin and not because Rubin unilaterally forced it! He showed it
with merit and people who agreed followed by example. It was beautiful
to watch.

> 
> Except for two issues:
> a) some people have expressed outright antagonism for any form of
> property ownership; this removes my willingness to trust them (and by
> extension, the group in general) to respect such notes, and
> 

I don't think that's entirely true. An important point is about power
dynamics. When you bring in an object, place it in the common space and
then have expectations, it seems to lead us to huge conflicts. If you
still have that kind of attachment for some of your private property,
please don't bring it to Noisebridge. If you do leave it around where it
*will* become mistaken as common property, it will cause conflict.

This says nothing of your shelf, your backpack, laptop or other stuff
that's temporarily in the space.

> b) we regularly have unvetted, inebriated people around (eg at 5MoFs,
> which are getting bigger all the time [which is great]), who so far
> seem to be in majority cool people (which is great), but it only takes
> one asshole / thief to spoil things - so a locked area for party times
> would be a good idea IMO, even if it's only locked in the same sense
> that our front door is

If 5MoF is considered regular, I'm unfamiliar with your definition of
regular. Doesn't it only happen once a month?

Why are we trying to solve the asshole problem before the asshole or
thief has done a thing? How can we make good decisions about an
apparition that is so nebulous?

Best,
Jake

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