[Noisebridge-discuss] Deep Crack

[Shannon Lee]

You do this by avoiding making laws, and instead relying on a system of
custom and discourse.
--S

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Colin Bayer <vogon at icculus.org> wrote:
> > [snip military crypto law craziness]
>
> ... wow, that's pretty dense even for me to read. I admire your
> ability to make some sense of that.
>
> A few other relevant bits:
> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/22/usc_sec_22_00002778----000-.html
> http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/22/39/IV/2791
>
> http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr;sid=073fa0fdecf2cf0c680ae04bdc74c4ef;rgn=div5;view=text;node=22%3A1.0.1.13.65;idno=22;cc=ecfr
>
> AFAICT the restrictions are only on export or sale to foreign
> nationals (neither of which is contemplated AFAICT). I don't see
> anything that says that e.g. NB-affiliated non-US citizens can't
> simply *use* it, despite its being possibly "significant military
> equipment". Or for that matter, that we might not make it publicly
> available to anyone willing to paypal us the power bill. (Though
> perhaps this'd come under some obscure interpretation of 'export'?)
>
> There are also at least some exemptions for scientific & research use,
> which I think we qualify as. But this chunk of law is incredibly
> obtuse, so I may well have missed something.
>
>
> OT, I wonder if this issue of the law keeping up with tech is
> intractable. To fix it one would need to either make laws very quickly
> (as such things go - i.e. within 1 yr or so), or somehow make a law
> about tech that isn't conceived of yet. Both seem like pretty hard
> problems. (And then they'd have to face the difficulty of trying to
> actually enforce those laws.... viz what happened to decss. :-P)
>
> - Sai
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