[Noisebridge-discuss] [Build] I think I'm done helping with build out and the space over all

[Glen Jarvis]

I see two pieces that may fit well together:

1) The need for a maid service,
2) potential members who wish to contribute, but are financially not  
able

These would fit well together *if* we can outline the exact maid  
duties needed on a nightly basis, and a measure of how those maid  
duties will be verified as successfully completed.

Unlike the normal excellence we require and should continually  
encourage. The people doing the maid service is doing a real job ---  
the pay is not money, but membership dues.  And, as a reward for their  
work, they get *real* membership benefits, like, for example a shelf  
-- or whatever benefits members get that guests don't.

Now, since this is s job, it can - and should be - revoked if  
performance isn't up to snuff. This is another reason for the two  
clearly defined and objective points above (what does the job entail  
and how are the points measured).

For example, let's say Glen agrees to do maid service every Monday  
night o in exchange for real membership. Every Monday, after hardware  
hacking, he does the dishes, throws away all food, takes out the  
trash, cleaned the hardware table, and sweeps and mops the floor -- a  
fixed set of duties, no more, no less.

If food is found on Friday morning, Glen isn't responsible --  the  
Thursday night guy/gal is. However, if on Tuesday morning, old food is  
found, the floors are dirty, etc., Glen was clearly remiss in his  
duties and a note to the list like "Monday night maid service seemed  
lacking last night" could be posted. If this were a constant  pattern,  
maybe Glen could find another way of paying for membership (again the  
concept of a real job or real exchange of value is necessary).

This way, this can scale out past the few very proactive souls that  
have been doing clean up because they have a strong vision for the  
place, but they are getting weary of doing extra work that is  
unappreciative, there is no value for, and for which there seems to be  
no end in sight.

I, Glen Jarvis, would be interested in such an arrangement. But, only  
for Monday nights. And, I imagine you need maid service several times  
per week.

Some of the tasks have already been outlined in the Wiki... So, I  
don't think this will be too hard to implement if there is  
interest...  Also, note, I still believe someone like Jim or Rubin  
should still br responsible for inspection and the occassional  
feedback that we would give our normal maid service.

There may be other guests who would like to convert to membership, but  
need other ways to pay their dues.

Glen

On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:40 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>
>   i agree (though i'm not yet done).
>
>   i hate seeing people coming in to do their
> things without taking any action to make the
> place better or defend against degradation,
> as though mommy and daddy will pay the maid
> service. an example is leaving drinks and
> food all around.
>
>
> On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 19:20 -0700, Rubin Abdi wrote:
>> Working at Noisebridge has been sort of like working through the  
>> year or
>> so before moving out of my parents' house, except that after a few  
>> days
>> the space lapses back over into a state of filth and and clutter.  
>> Most
>> of our members don't actually take helping out with the space and
>> keeping it clean seriously.
>>
>> It's like with the help of many focused individuals we're able to  
>> take a
>> few steps forward while it only takes a day of general use to take  
>> two
>> steps back.
>>
>> I find all this to be super depressing. Totally done helping with  
>> build
>> out and any sort of facilities like role for the space. Please don't
>> poke or bug me about helping to build or do anything in/with the  
>> space
>> unless is involves the darkroom.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
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