[Noisebridge-discuss] [Build] I think I'm done helping with build out and the space over all

[Rubin Abdi]

alexhandy wrote, On 20091016 130445:
 > Enumerating the problems is nice, but doesn't fix much. The problem you
 > listed below is a major one, and we had it at 83c. If you can figure out
 > a way to do this without paying for a maid, and without relying on 5
 > people like you to clean every week, then please suggest it.

I just did, you bitch at members until they start putting time into it. 
I'm sick and tired of doing this job.

 > I remain skeptical that weekly chores will get done reliably. If people
 > aren't willing to clean now, why would they be willing after a new sign
 > is put up?

As a member you're totally allowed to set a good example by cleaning up 
the space. As a member you're totally allowed to ask other members to 
put time into cleaning. I have made this all extremely easy with the 
house keeping wiki page.

 > I think we need a maid. We had one at 83c. Why is it so wrong now?

Gina's services at 83c consisted of...

* Sweeping floors
* Mopping floors
* Vacuuming carpeted areas
* Scrubbing the kitchen counters
* Cleaning the bathroom

Gina however would not clean any areas that had objects on them, exmaples...

* Tables covered in electronics and other stuff that belong to either 
the space or people.
* Floor area covered in computers and other donated goods that never 
actually made it to the hack shelf.
* Kitchen counters covered in dirty cups and dishes.

Why didn't she put the hack stuff on the hack shelf? Why didn't she move 
the large servers somewhere more appropriate? Why didn't she clean up 
the dishes?

She isn't a member, none of the hack stuff is hers, she doesn't know 
where to put them, she isn't going to move large stupid ass servers, 
clean your own fucking dishes you filthy hackers.

The maids that Mitch and I have found will be doing the exactly the same 
tasks as Gina was doing with the same limitations.


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Rubin Abdi
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