[Noisebridge-discuss] Cleaning up - a solution

Glen Jarvis glen at glenjarvis.com
Fri Oct 16 16:58:42 UTC 2009


Plan B. If you're open to proposals:

    I have a W9 and contract here for hirable services for janitorial work.
The price will be a fixed fee for $80 per month, with Net-30 terms.

    The contract will specify cleaning to be done for Noisebridge every
Monday evening. However, I need an Appendix-A (an itemized list of work that
should be done on each visit).

     If you can get me that, and we can get a signed contract, I will
officially take care of the janitorial work. For every extra week day (per
month) that Janitorial work should be done, there will be an extra fee of
$80 (and we would have to have a new signed contract). Also, we would need
to review the contract on a regular basis (possibly yearly) with a new
signed contract.

    This can either be with Glen Jarvis, LLC or with the individual Glen
Jarvis. The choice here should be negotiated. My business usually hires out
technical services, not janitorial services. Although there isn't anything
that stops me from doing the latter, I do need to consider it...

Cheers,


Glen


Oh, and, maybe I should consider getting a membership now... Jim said he's
sponsor me.





On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com>wrote:

> We've already discussed exchanging maid service for membership dues several
> months back.  There are legal issues that prevent this.  We would have to
> pay someone, then they give us that money as dues.
>
> Christie
> ---
> Pigs can fly given sufficient thrust.
>     - RFC 1925
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>
>> This message was held on at least one mailing list (probably build), so
>> I'll resend it to the group to make certain it was received. Please forgive
>> the double posting:
>>
>> I see two pieces that may fit well together:
>>
>> 1) The need for a maid service,
>> 2) potential members who wish to contribute, but are financially not able
>>
>> These would fit well together *if* we can outline the exact maid duties
>> needed on a nightly basis, and a measure of how those maid duties will be
>> verified as successfully completed.
>>
>> Unlike the normal excellence we require and should continually encourage.
>> The people doing the maid service is doing a real job --- the pay is not
>> money, but membership dues.  And, as a reward for their work, they get
>> *real* membership benefits, like, for example a shelf -- or whatever
>> benefits members get that guests don't.
>>
>> Now, since this is s job, it can - and should be - revoked if performance
>> isn't up to snuff. This is another reason for the two clearly defined and
>> objective points above (what does the job entail and how are the points
>> measured).
>>
>> For example, let's say Glen agrees to do maid service every Monday night o
>> in exchange for real membership. Every Monday, after hardware hacking, he
>> does the dishes, throws away all food, takes out the trash, cleaned the
>> hardware table, and sweeps and mops the floor -- a fixed set of duties, no
>> more, no less.
>>
>> If food is found on Friday morning, Glen isn't responsible --  the
>> Thursday night guy/gal is. However, if on Tuesday morning, old food is
>> found, the floors are dirty, etc., Glen was clearly remiss in his duties and
>> a note to the list like "Monday night maid service seemed lacking last
>> night" could be posted. If this were a constant  pattern, maybe Glen could
>> find another way of paying for membership (again the concept of a real job
>> or real exchange of value is necessary).
>>
>> This way, this can scale out past the few very proactive souls that have
>> been doing clean up because they have a strong vision for the place, but
>> they are getting weary of doing extra work that is unappreciative, there is
>> no value for, and for which there seems to be no end in sight.
>>
>> I, Glen Jarvis, would be interested in such an arrangement. But, only for
>> Monday nights. And, I imagine you need maid service several times per week.
>>
>> Some of the tasks have already been outlined in the Wiki... So, I don't
>> think this will be too hard to implement if there is interest...  Also,
>> note, I still believe someone like Jim or Rubin should still br responsible
>> for inspection and the occassional feedback that we would give our normal
>> maid service.
>>
>> There may be other guests who would like to convert to membership, but
>> need other ways to pay their dues.
>>
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