[Noisebridge-discuss] I am really disappointed with certain members of noisebridge
Rachel McConnell
rachel at xtreme.com
Fri Oct 30 21:45:48 UTC 2009
Thanks Leif!
It seems clear to me at this point that there was no malicious intent,
and just a couple people saying, hey, let me try that too! There may
have been a beer or two as well, I suspect.
Ian thanks for handling this well. Leif thanks for handling this well.
I am proud of us all around.
Rachel
Leif Ryge wrote:
> Ian,
>
> First and foremost, I offer you my sincere apology and my promise that I
> personally will not (mis)use your company's service again.
>
> I was the one who pointed out last night that people could run
> curl -d to=3 http://some-uservoice-url/votes
> to vote for something, and that without cookies, they could keep voting.
>
> I would characterize this as harmless ballot-stuffing, rather than a
> DDOS, but I understand that if it got out of hand it could certainly
> have the effect of a DOS. I am very glad to hear it didn't take the site
> down. Taking the site down was certainly nobody's intent; the intent was
> simply to get a lot of votes on a single item, to demonstrate why voting
> on things with a tool like this doesn't make any sense for a group like
> ours.
>
> I personally only sent a few hundred http requests, and in light of your
> company's stated interest in legal action (which I think is entirely
> unwarranted given that the whole thing was apparently a few thousand
> http requests from a single location) I will not help determine who else
> sent more. Obviously, like most things at noisebridge, this was in no
> way an action of the organization and was only the action of a few
> individuals.
>
> I regret the strife that this caused you, and hope you can accept my
> apology.
>
> ~leif
>
> Ian wrote:
>> last night, there was an attempted DDOS on the noisebridge forum from
>> 75.101.62.89 and 75.101.62.88. yes. those are both noisebridge IPs.
>> they submitted around 35,000 votes to the forum and could have taken
>> the entire uservoice site down.
>>
>> i have no problem with people voicing their concerns on the mailing
>> list, but to do something destructive and illegal using noisebridge
>> equipment against a company that one of its members works for simply
>> because you didnt agree with its usage is beyond pathetic. rubin, for
>> future reference, even though you may not mean anything destructive or
>> personal with your "abrasive" (as you put it in your personal apology
>> to me) comments on the list, other, weaker people on the list who are
>> followers will take them in a different way.
>>
>> i tried to not censor anyone on the feedback forum and accommodate
>> everyone and tried to play the role of strictly the forum admin. one
>> of our staff deleted the suggestion about trying to get root on our
>> site because, well, they simply viewed it as a threat against
>> uservoice. i assured them finding security flaws was legitimate and
>> will even benefit us. then they pointed to the suggestions about
>> disparaging uservoice and my comment facilitating that. then again i
>> reassured them i was only being the site administrator and that we
>> shouldnt censor people who use our product even if their suggestions
>> could hurt our business. the bottom line is i put my neck out to try
>> to provide noisebridge with something that i thought would be useful
>> and this is the thanks i get.
>>
>> aside from my current situation with the company, uservoice is talking
>> about taking legal action against noisebridge for the DDOS attack. i
>> have begged them to allow me to solve this without legal intervention.
>> i ask that the people who were responsible name themselves and
>> separate them from the rest of noisebridge. if you identify yourself,
>> explain and apologize for your actions, i think i can convince the
>> rest of uservoice to move past this.
>>
>> ian
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