[Noisebridge-discuss] I am really disappointed with certain members of noisebridge [drama]

[Davidfine]

Hello,
I've added the [drama] tag to this thread. Please continue to use this 
tag in your replies to this thread.
Thanks for helping me sort my inbox,
--David

Josh Myer wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dr. Jesus <j at hug.gs 
> <mailto:j at hug.gs>> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Ian <ian at slumbrparty.com
>     <mailto:ian at slumbrparty.com>> wrote:
>     > it seems that i have upset a lot of people with the use of the term
>     > DDOS. for that i apologize. i saw two IPs, so i said "distributed".
>     >
>     > if you will notice, uservoice was never actually offline during this
>     > and those anonymous votes did not actually get counted. before we
>     > blocked those IPs, i had no way of knowing if that anonymous voting
>     > was going to continue from other IPs or what. the problem is that it
>     > happened on the noisebridge forum from noisebridge IPs with no email
>     > coming it later saying "oh sorry, we were playing around, didnt mean
>     > to flood you guys".
>     >
>     > honestly, i think people at uservoice were just pissed because we
>     > tried to help noisebridge out and got slapped in the face with abuse
>     > on the site. they feel much better now that they know people
>     were just
>     > messing around. while we have some fraud detection and abuse
>     > prevention in place, our service is not perfect.
>
>     I've observed that suggesting the use of any non-Free software to
>     anyone involved with Noisebridge is a bad idea in general because
>     there are too many irreconcilable opinions here surrounding software
>     politics and it's impossible to know beforehand whether the person you
>     are talking to will react angrily to your suggestion or not.
>
>     Non-Free hardware and firmware doesn't seem to cause this problem,
>     though.  For example, I don't think anyone is going to (non-jokingly)
>     argue that we should only buy services from ISPs that only use 100%
>     free hardware, software, and ops procedures, or that we should stop
>     using electricity until we can eliminate any signals generated from
>     non-Free BPL transceivers on the line.
>
>
> Hey, there are microcontrollers in the control systems generating the 
> electricity, and they constitute an integral part of making society 
> work.  If anything out there demands to be GPL, this is it!
>
> So, let's boycott PG&E until our electricity comes from totally Open 
> and Free plants!
>
> (I do appreciate their recent change to entirely recycled electrons; 
> it's too bad activist shareholders had to force their hand.)
> -- 
> Josh Myer 650.248.3796
> josh at joshisanerd.com <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>
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