[Noisebridge-discuss] Laser Cutter!

Tue Sep 29 03:33:07 UTC 2009

Not to flog a deceased equine, but a real world example. There is this  
great company that laser etched moleskine notebooks called modofly. (http://lifehacker.com/392041/modofly-laser+etched-moleskine-notebooks 
) On their site : http://66.116.156.9/blogger.php?paged=2 near the  
bottom, it reads.

"Modofly is Back!

After a hiatus due to bad chemicals occurring in the burning of  
Moleskines, we are back with our own designed book! Our new book is a  
front to back color delight! We are happy to say that we can now  
showcase art from the artists much better. We also have the ability to  
do one off customs in a way we used to not be able to feasibly do.  
Check out the custom button on the navigation bar.

We have an amazing collection of artists working with us now, and it  
grows almost daily. We have (or will be uploading soon) artwork from  
Camilla d’Errico, Jason Limon, Travis Louie, Matt Cipov, Dan Hillier,  
Marc Gabanna, Keith Thompson, Stephen Rothwell, Doktor A, and many  
many more. Come check it out!

We print our books on demand which takes a touch longer on shipping,  
but allows us to give you such a wide selection of great artwork from  
artists around the globe. Do you have art you would love to see on our  
books? Do you know of someone we should be working with? Go to our  
contact tab on the navigation bar, and shoot us an email. Even if we  
can’t currently use your work, getting your own work is pretty easy,  
and if you are an artist, company, or marketing firm that wants to get  
over 20 books, contact us as we offer price breaks.

Are you a store looking for unique merchandise? Do you know of a store  
we should be in? Please contact us if you are interested in selling  
our books, or know of a store that we should talk to.

Do you run an art gallery, or do you frequently curate shows? Talk to  
us. We can help you get set up with books to sell with the artists  
that you are showing or will be showing.

We currently have ruled books ready to go and should have our sketch  
books here in about 3 weeks, but they are ready for pre-order, so line  
up!"

I happen to have one of their original laser etched books and I wish I  
had gotten more, they were AWESOME.. But I'd rather have living  
artists making book, not dead artists.

Just my .02.. If/when we get a laser etch/cutter ventilation is a  
HUGELY important thing..

/Mark/

On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote:

> Ventilation important b/c some of the materials it can cut vaporize to
> Nastiness that we don't want people to breathe.  We should make sure  
> to
> have a force ventilator that vents out a window or through the HVAC
> system (once that's installed).  Ideally it should live in a room of  
> its
> own, although that may be difficult.  It should absolutely not go in  
> the
> dirty shop b/c of the dirt, as epsas points out.
>
> Rachel
>
> epsas at evil-wire.org wrote:
>> The laser cutter will need to have ventilation -- it will also need  
>> to be in a room free of dust and airborne contaminants (as those  
>> can munge up the mirrors)...  access to water is also important for  
>> cooling.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:21:39AM -0700, Shannon Lee wrote:
>>> So, I think this is a great goal; perhaps we decide what we want  
>>> and then
>>> set up a fundable for it.
>>> As for your specific questions:
>>>
>>> 1) It's totally cool, and has been something specifically  
>>> mentioned in the
>>> same breath as '3d printer' as something we want for our fab  
>>> setup. We
>>> didn't get one at 83c because we didn't have room.
>>>
>>> 2) I am a big fan of the 'get a cheap one now' model; cheap means  
>>> we get a
>>> lot more experience figuring out why it broke, and now means we  
>>> have more
>>> time to do it -- we may have bought a cheap one, learned how to do  
>>> cool
>>> stuff with it, broken it, and been able to build enthusiasm for a  
>>> much
>>> better new one by the time we've raised the money for a nice one.
>>>
>>> 3) Does it need its own room?  Can it live in either the dirty  
>>> shop or the
>>> electronics area?  Does the room currently being used as the  
>>> electrical shed
>>> work for this purpose?
>>>
>>> 4) Fundables is a great way to raise money for stuff like this,  
>>> someone has
>>> to volunteer to be the Point Person.
>>>
>>> 5)  Everyone.
>>>
>>> --S
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LASER CUTTER.
>>>>
>>>> WANT.
>>>>
>>>> After seeing the awesome you can do at Tech Shop and NYCResistor,  
>>>> I'm
>>>> willing to spearhead (lenshead?) an effort to get a laser cutter  
>>>> for
>>>> Noisebridge. Though I've used one a couple times,
>>>> I'm a relative noob. Talking points:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Is this cool?
>>>>
>>>> 2. What do we want in terms of power, deck size, cost (i.e. name  
>>>> brand
>>>> or Chinese)? Used (cheaper, but potential for fraud and  
>>>> jankiness)  or
>>>> new ($$$$) ?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Assuming people are OK with it at Noisebridge, where does it go?
>>>> The DJ booth seems good in terms of corner location (low vibration,
>>>> out of the way, some sound isolation) and access to window/wall  
>>>> (for
>>>> ventilation). The DJs might disagree. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> 4. How do we pay? Consensus donations seems to be a workable  
>>>> solution,
>>>> but we would have to figure out a quid pro quo (i.e. donors get
>>>> priority or something). Is $20K an unreasonable goal?
>>>>
>>>> 5. Maintenance. Who babysits and fixes it when it breaks? (I will
>>>> volunteer some but can't be there 24/7.)
>>>>
>>>> Grey started a wiki page in June. If you are interested in  
>>>> donating,
>>>> using, or just interested, please sign up:
>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Lasercutter
>>>>
>>>> I will summarize any list discussion there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just in: I asked Bre Pettis of NYCResistor (who makes a living on  
>>>> his)
>>>> for advice. Here's his response:
>>>>
>>>>> Minimum: 35 Watt Epilog Mini. 12x24  Machine + Filter + Tax = 20K
>>>>>
>>>>> Very Desirable: 60 Watt Epilog. 24x36 Machine + Filter + Tax =  
>>>>> more than
>>>> 20k.
>>>>> We wish we had gotten a more powerful machine, but because we  
>>>>> didn't know
>>>> better and it's a lot of money, we went with the mini.
>>>>> Don't get a chinese off brand machine. They are cheap and well,  
>>>>> cheap.
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>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Shannon Lee
>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
>>
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