[Noisebridge-discuss] Block over email for noise pollution

[Ian Atha]

There's no rule that says blocks need to be not-stupid or productive.
In fact, I believe every single block I've witnessed during my time at
NB is considered counter-productive and stupid--at least by someone.

Arguably, the pragmatic effect of my analogy (please argue why it's
bad--badmouthing without due argumentation is counter-productive) is
to demonstrate that my dissuading people to use staple guns since
other options exist.

It seems that your actual block, and my analogous block are of the form:
==
Object X has undesirable effect E to person Y when used.
Person Y has power to block presence of object X from Noisebridge.
Person Y hereby bans presence of object X from Noisebridge.
==

-ian.

To clarify, I didn't _actually_ request people not to use staple guns
or any other noisy tool.

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:40, Davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:
> (Puts on my jerk face)
> Your block would not count because it is stupid and counter productive.
>
> The pragmatic effect of the statement I made is to persuade people toward options that face less resistance.
>
> Now I might ask, what's the pragmatic effect of that bad analogy you just made?
> (Removes jerk face)
> --D
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Ian Atha
> Sender: thatha7777 at gmail.com
> To: davidfine
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Block over email for noise pollution
> Sent: Apr 8, 2010 6:17 PM
>
> On the procedural, do people believe that, I, as a member of
> Noisebridge, may I say something like this:
>
> """
> I'm very jumpy--many of you have witnessed the effects sudden noises
> to Z-axis coordinate. I tend to jump up a few feet.
>
> Being a member of Noisebridge, I block the the usage of any instrument
> that produces sudden noises. For example, dremels (as long as they are
> used for more than 2 seconds each time) are fine, but don't even think
> of using a staple-gun.
>
> Whether I'm around or not, it doesn't matter. As a member, I block
> their usage within the premises of Noisebridge.
> """ ?
>
> Would my block count? What effect does such a statement have, pragmatically?
>
> -ian.
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:02, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:
>> For the time being I will block on any notion to bring an acoustic piano
>> to Noisebridge. It's not a good use of the space. I'd support a digital
>> keyboard because they can be played quietly, stored out of the way, and
>> they provide a handy midi interface.
>>
>> Checkout the Yamaha YPG-635, it has weighted hammers like an acoustic
>> and can be bought new for $560.
>> http://www.onlineluxury-shopping.com/product_info.php?products_id=4889&cPath=25
>> This keyboard has better tactile response than any cheap old upright
>> piano you're likely to find.
>>
>> If you can't raise $600 from the community for an idea, it's probably
>> not that good an idea.
>> --D
>
>
>
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