[Noisebridge-discuss] Block over email for noise pollution

[Ian Atha]

Just to make sure--I hope it's clear that I'm not proposing to ban anything.

Via my reduction to the absurd, I'm arguing against banning an
acoustic piano (and anything else, as a matter of fact).

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:55, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
> Ian Atha wrote, On 20100408 183515:
>> Excellent point--exactly what I wanted brought up.
>>
>> Conversely, the same applies for an acoustic piano, no? If people are
>> uncomfortable with the sound/noise an acoustic piano produces, it's
>> only banable while they are in the space, right?
>
> There's no "bandable" at Noisebridge. There is no security guard at the
> door making sure what gets in is allowed. The state of "OK" in the space
> isn't a yes or no. People have different comfort levels. If you feel
> like someone is going past some boundaries while you're there, say
> something, ask them to take your presence and preference into
> consideration with what they're doing, come to a compromise.
>
> Everyone is different. We're here, we share a space, we work together.
> The notion of banning goes beyond the idea of working together, to
> share. To ban is to simply state that this thing you want to do isn't
> allowed here, you're the minority, please leave your ideas on how you
> want to spend your time at the space at the door.
>
> It's true we have setup some banned and blocks and boundaries in the
> space. A good example is people using Noisebridge as a crash pad. This
> was brought up at a meeting as "We want to _not_ allow people to do a
> certain thing" and we agreed that was a good idea. This was not brought
> up as "We _want_ to allow people to do a certain thing" and have that
> get blocked. Take consensus on the extreme action, not the blocking of a
> very simple act. There's a difference here.
>
> Step back, let the space do it's own thing, it's been doing fine for the
> most part thus far. Discussions like this scare away creativity.
>
> --
> Rubin Abdi
> rubin at starset.net
>