[Noisebridge-discuss] Block over email for noise pollution

[Mark Ellis]

I might be inviting some drama with this but I thought it might be  
worth mentioning that the joke fake camera that was installed in the  
bathroom has been ripped from it's base not once but twice when a  
replacement was purchased. This came without warrant or any sort of  
discussion about why a very obviously fake camera would be a bad thing  
to have. The camera was not installed to poke fun at those with  
particularly thick tin foil hats (though watching it pushed up so it  
wasn't 'looking' at the toilet and once seeing tape over the 'lens'  
was funny in and of itself) but was merely a silly gag put in he space  
like so many other odd and humerous objects around the space. So in  
the same spirit of discussing things you might not agree with in the  
space it would have been nice to here even a single word of valid  
objection before basically stealing something from the space. Sorry if  
this is too much of a tangent. It just annoys me that someone would be  
that crappy about a joke. >_>

On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:

> Ian Atha wrote, On 20100408 183515:
>> Excellent point--exactly what I wanted brought up.
>>
>> Conversely, the same applies for an acoustic piano, no? If people are
>> uncomfortable with the sound/noise an acoustic piano produces, it's
>> only banable while they are in the space, right?
>
> There's no "bandable" at Noisebridge. There is no security guard at  
> the
> door making sure what gets in is allowed. The state of "OK" in the  
> space
> isn't a yes or no. People have different comfort levels. If you feel
> like someone is going past some boundaries while you're there, say
> something, ask them to take your presence and preference into
> consideration with what they're doing, come to a compromise.
>
> Everyone is different. We're here, we share a space, we work together.
> The notion of banning goes beyond the idea of working together, to
> share. To ban is to simply state that this thing you want to do isn't
> allowed here, you're the minority, please leave your ideas on how you
> want to spend your time at the space at the door.
>
> It's true we have setup some banned and blocks and boundaries in the
> space. A good example is people using Noisebridge as a crash pad. This
> was brought up at a meeting as "We want to _not_ allow people to do a
> certain thing" and we agreed that was a good idea. This was not  
> brought
> up as "We _want_ to allow people to do a certain thing" and have that
> get blocked. Take consensus on the extreme action, not the blocking  
> of a
> very simple act. There's a difference here.
>
> Step back, let the space do it's own thing, it's been doing fine for  
> the
> most part thus far. Discussions like this scare away creativity.
>
> -- 
> Rubin Abdi
> rubin at starset.net
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