[Noisebridge-discuss] Block over email for noise pollution

[Christie Dudley]

This is unusually eloquently stated for you, Rubin.  Kudos.  It sums it up
nicely:  communication is a valuable skill.  Use it, not rules, to your
advantage.  I just have two things to add.

Stop trying to create a system to game, folks.  All this discussion about
rules and clarifications isn't helping anyone.  We're hackers and know how
to bend and twist rules to suit our moods.  It's what we do, whether with
physical, logical, or human systems.  Better lets just skip the rules and
try to be decent people, no?

Also, I would like to counter the "chicken shit" accusation Rubin had in an
earlier post for some people who are more timid in asking for what they
want/need from others who are bothering them.  We discussed this at a
meeting waaay back when we were worried about the free-for-all things were
becoming and the propensity to scare off more timid types... such as most
women.

If you're uncomfortable with confrontation, there are plenty of us who
aren't.  All you need to do is find a sympathetic ear and have someone lend
a hand in dealing with the bothersome situation.  It's really quite easy and
you're likely to make a new friend that way.

Christie
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scripts." -- Noisebridge meeting notes 2008-06-17

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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:

> Ian Atha wrote, On 20100408 183515:
> > Excellent point--exactly what I wanted brought up.
> >
> > Conversely, the same applies for an acoustic piano, no? If people are
> > uncomfortable with the sound/noise an acoustic piano produces, it's
> > only banable while they are in the space, right?
>
> There's no "bandable" at Noisebridge. There is no security guard at the
> door making sure what gets in is allowed. The state of "OK" in the space
> isn't a yes or no. People have different comfort levels. If you feel
> like someone is going past some boundaries while you're there, say
> something, ask them to take your presence and preference into
> consideration with what they're doing, come to a compromise.
>
> Everyone is different. We're here, we share a space, we work together.
> The notion of banning goes beyond the idea of working together, to
> share. To ban is to simply state that this thing you want to do isn't
> allowed here, you're the minority, please leave your ideas on how you
> want to spend your time at the space at the door.
>
> It's true we have setup some banned and blocks and boundaries in the
> space. A good example is people using Noisebridge as a crash pad. This
> was brought up at a meeting as "We want to _not_ allow people to do a
> certain thing" and we agreed that was a good idea. This was not brought
> up as "We _want_ to allow people to do a certain thing" and have that
> get blocked. Take consensus on the extreme action, not the blocking of a
> very simple act. There's a difference here.
>
> Step back, let the space do it's own thing, it's been doing fine for the
> most part thus far. Discussions like this scare away creativity.
>
> --
> Rubin Abdi
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