[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 38, Issue 22

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So, anyone can drop in. But really, it's non-joiners' fault for not "making friends." 

The messages are just so inconsistent.

I guess i'm more interested in stability of the space i'm in, than in spending lots of time fussing with it.
Seems like there's a ton of energy spent deciding and re-deciding. That;s not stable.
I mean, if you enjoy "running" the space, great. but the hype about noisebridge is something else.
What am i waiting for? Clarity. 

and you're throwing out strawman arguments all over the place. i  didn't suggest creating
a high barrier to entry via an expensive monthly membership. So, please, be constructive.

I have attempted to offer advice to answer the unanswered questions of insiders who seem
baffled that outsiders remain on the outside. You don't like what you hear, i guess, but from
my pov and talking with a couple of others, it's the truth. and i'm apparently not the only
person on this list who feels this way



On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:00 PM, noisebridge-discuss-request at lists.noisebridge.net wrote:

> From: Moxie Marlinspike <moxie at thoughtcrime.org>
> Date: December 21, 2010 7:20:53 PM PST
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Noisebridge: Death and Taxes
> 
> 
> 
> I've only been to the Hacker Dojo three times, but interestingly enough,
> each time I've gone I've overheard a conversation amongst members about
> how they wish the Dojo could "be more like noisebridge."
> 
> What blows my mind is that people think noisebridge has a "high bar for
> entry."  Is $100/month to even get in the door a lower bar for entry?
> 
> Jim and Adit, I'd be interested to hear what it is that you're waiting
> for?  Noisebridge is a place where you can walk in at any hour and do
> literally anything you want, without asking for permission, paying an
> entrance fee, signing a waver, or taking any required classes.  Combine
> that with introductory classes on a variety of subjects three or four
> nights a week, where you can come in and someone will hold your hand
> through a topic, and I seriously don't know how you can get any more
> welcoming than that.  If what you really desire is to use noisebridge, I
> think the only secret is to begin.
> 
> The reason that the Hacker Dojo has a ton of people paying a bunch of
> cash to spend time there during the day is because it's primarily used
> as a co-working space.  Most of the people there during the day are
> "doing startups" and using the Dojo as their office.  There are a number
> of places like that in SF, if that's what you want.  Even nicer ones,
> really.
> 
> When I hear most people say that they have trouble "getting into"
> noisebridge, I think what they're really having trouble with is making
> friends.  That's totally fair, and I also don't find a lot of what some
> people spend their time on at noisebridge to be totally inspiring, but
> if you think that a high monetary cost of entry is going to be a good
> selection mechanism for attracting people you'd be more likely to be
> friends with, it'd probably be more appropriate to start a hackerspace
> in a different neighborhood like the Marina or Hayes Valley or something.
> 
> - moxie

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