[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge-discuss Digest, Vol 38, Issue 22

[rachel lyra hospodar]

Techshop san francisco just opened.  They have lots of shiny new things and
would prefer that nobody fussed with the infrastructure. For people who
prefer a more... prefabricated experience, there are certainly other
options.

The hype about noisebridge is, as far as I'm aware: "come over, hack stuff!"
If we are putting out a different message it would be great to pinpoint
where, any ideas?

Hi! My name is rachel. What's yours?

mediumreality.com
On Dec 22, 2010 5:21 PM, "-" <noisebridge at splattercast.com> wrote:
>
> So, anyone can drop in. But really, it's non-joiners' fault for not
"making friends."
>
> The messages are just so inconsistent.
>
> I guess i'm more interested in stability of the space i'm in, than in
spending lots of time fussing with it.
> Seems like there's a ton of energy spent deciding and re-deciding. That;s
not stable.
> I mean, if you enjoy "running" the space, great. but the hype about
noisebridge is something else.
> What am i waiting for? Clarity.
>
> and you're throwing out strawman arguments all over the place. i didn't
suggest creating
> a high barrier to entry via an expensive monthly membership. So, please,
be constructive.
>
> I have attempted to offer advice to answer the unanswered questions of
insiders who seem
> baffled that outsiders remain on the outside. You don't like what you
hear, i guess, but from
> my pov and talking with a couple of others, it's the truth. and i'm
apparently not the only
> person on this list who feels this way
>
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:00 PM,
noisebridge-discuss-request at lists.noisebridge.net wrote:
>
>> From: Moxie Marlinspike <moxie at thoughtcrime.org>
>> Date: December 21, 2010 7:20:53 PM PST
>> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [Noisebridge-announce] Noisebridge:
Death and Taxes
>>
>>
>>
>> I've only been to the Hacker Dojo three times, but interestingly enough,
>> each time I've gone I've overheard a conversation amongst members about
>> how they wish the Dojo could "be more like noisebridge."
>>
>> What blows my mind is that people think noisebridge has a "high bar for
>> entry." Is $100/month to even get in the door a lower bar for entry?
>>
>> Jim and Adit, I'd be interested to hear what it is that you're waiting
>> for? Noisebridge is a place where you can walk in at any hour and do
>> literally anything you want, without asking for permission, paying an
>> entrance fee, signing a waver, or taking any required classes. Combine
>> that with introductory classes on a variety of subjects three or four
>> nights a week, where you can come in and someone will hold your hand
>> through a topic, and I seriously don't know how you can get any more
>> welcoming than that. If what you really desire is to use noisebridge, I
>> think the only secret is to begin.
>>
>> The reason that the Hacker Dojo has a ton of people paying a bunch of
>> cash to spend time there during the day is because it's primarily used
>> as a co-working space. Most of the people there during the day are
>> "doing startups" and using the Dojo as their office. There are a number
>> of places like that in SF, if that's what you want. Even nicer ones,
>> really.
>>
>> When I hear most people say that they have trouble "getting into"
>> noisebridge, I think what they're really having trouble with is making
>> friends. That's totally fair, and I also don't find a lot of what some
>> people spend their time on at noisebridge to be totally inspiring, but
>> if you think that a high monetary cost of entry is going to be a good
>> selection mechanism for attracting people you'd be more likely to be
>> friends with, it'd probably be more appropriate to start a hackerspace
>> in a different neighborhood like the Marina or Hayes Valley or something.
>>
>> - moxie
>
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