[Noisebridge-discuss] NoiseBoat

[Rameen]

I think it's a good deal for the size, it's also probably much much larger
than the current Noisebridge.

Also, I would want something at least ...uh ...... 6x more powerful! than an
Arduino controlling my $2,000,000 floating steel hacker village.
This is not a center for ants!

I imagine this thing would house a couple hundred people; the population
density given the location of the ship would be probably be a bit unruly in
terms of resources and comfort. Not to mention power use and waste
management. In short, it's probably not built to be a hacker space. Warships
are for war. It's an amazing idea though: a "floating" hacker city? I really
love the idea of a housed hackercampus, especially if it's mobile.



On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Naomi -
>
> I was half thinking about not-ephermerisle with this. Instead of having a
> moving boat, just use aircraft carrier as a massive floating platform. It
> would take away a ton of the engineering hurdles required to make an
> oceanfaring vessel since this one was not only open ocean worthy, but could
> probably take some torpedos :).
>
> Alas, the back of the envelope calculation looks bad. Assuming nothing else
> buy buying the ship (no engines, no towing, no docks), in other words, just
> raw steel. If we assume that we could pay the going wholesale rate for mild
> steel scrap at maybe $0.10/lb (given that I can pay about $0.50 - $0.80 a
> pound for it from a scrapyard). The total metal weight = 10000 tons from the
> website 10000*2000 = 20,000,000 lbs of steel * 0.10 = $2million :(.
>
> So, I guess what I'm saying is that reasonable offers look like they'll
> probably be around that mark. I was willing to pony up a grand even!
>
> Sean
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> See also seasteading.org ... and if any of you are actually serious about
>> this, I'll put you in touch with the founders.
>>
>> --Naomi
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja at bogus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/2/10 6:29 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil wrote:
>>> > During Prohibition, casino + speakeasy ships would anchor offshore,
>>> just
>>> > inside international waters. Boats would take customers out. If I'm not
>>> > mistaken, one big pickup point was just below the Cliff House, and the
>>> > ships were anchored out past the Farallons.
>>>
>>> This big thing about ships is the amount of capital it takes to keep
>>> something operating at scale... sucking down fuel at rate of a few
>>> pounds per second is fine with 3000 paying customers onboard or a lot of
>>> cargo, but no so awesome for the casual project.
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, <
>>> travis+ml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org<travis%2Bml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org>
>>> > <mailto:travis%2Bml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org<travis%252Bml-noisebridge at subspacefield.org>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Hmm, decommissioned aircraft carriers...  suddenly I'm having
>>> >     Cryptonomicon
>>> >     flashbacks.  Maybe you could tow it towed out to international
>>> >     waters? ;-)
>>>
>>> it was actually snow crash, and the point was you could leverage the
>>> North Pacific Subtropical Gyre to make a round trip as opposed to just
>>> ending up in some giant garbage patch in the mid-pacific.
>>>
>>> the operating costs for an aircraft carrier even if your rule out
>>> propulsion are fairly epic, like you could run a reasonable sized space
>>> program instead . the US has 6 carrier battle groups which is retarded
>>> expensive even on the scale of us military expenditures.
>>>
>>> ther are various tall ship sail training programs which probably hew a
>>> little closer to the nb aesthetic, but a sailing vessel is a hole in the
>>> water into which you pour money which is what keeps your's trully feet
>>> planted on dry land.
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