[Noisebridge-discuss] meeting notes 2010-11-30

Sat Dec 4 02:35:05 UTC 2010

I agree.  However, I also think there should also be some dedicated 
discussion about more effective and efficient ways to get some money.

For example, I've already thought of a few ideas:
* discounts for multi-month memberships
* ability to "gift" memberships to other people
* a weekly/monthly newsletter email (not a mailing list) to remind 
people we need money.

Patrick

On 12/3/2010 1:55 PM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> I have an opinion.  I'd like to see discussion of vital NB concerns like
> money, remain on the general list.  I don't want to make it easy for
> people to ignore that we're in financial trouble, nor hide the progress
> we're making on turning that around.
>
> Rachel
>
> Patrick Keys wrote:
>> I suggest a dedicated mailing list for noisebridge finances and
>> money-raising ideas/activities.
>>
>> Does anybody have any opinions about this?
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/2010 7:56 PM, Michael C. Toren wrote:
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> You've responded to me personally, without cc'ng the list.  You may want
>>> to send your message again to noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net.
>>>
>>> -mct
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 07:22:35PM -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>>> I propose a dedicated mailing list for noisebridge finances and
>>>> money-raising ideas/activities.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any opinions about this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2010 6:27 PM, Michael C. Toren wrote:
>>>>> (Sorry for the delay in sending these out!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Meeting called at 8:15pm.  Moderator Dr. Jesus, notetaker MCT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Approximately 21 people in attendance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Treasurer wasn't able to make it tonight, but left a very helpful, detailed
>>>>> report (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2010_11_30) with the
>>>>> current state of affairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rachel points out that there are many ways to pay dues, including giving
>>>>> them to a board member, who will give you a receipt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shannon says we're currently paying out about twice as much as we're
>>>>> taking in.  This projects us running out of money in February.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shannon speaks briefly about the distinction between affiliate vs. full
>>>>> membership.  If you use the space regularly, but don't want to take place
>>>>> in the consensus process, you should at least consider being an affiliate
>>>>> member.
>>>>>
>>>>> Up for membership tonight: John (neurofog/NeuroTech).  Signatures by Al
>>>>> Sweigart and one undetermined person.  No one blocks; John is a member.
>>>>>
>>>>> Weekly things happening at Noisebridge.
>>>>> In addition to the ones already listed on the meetings form page:
>>>>>
>>>>>        - Ruby Tuesdays is now happening
>>>>>
>>>>>        - Carl is teaching Unity to people who show up on Wednesdays
>>>>>
>>>>>        - Over the next month, Pwn Your Own is focusing on wireless security.
>>>>>
>>>>>        - Friday Night Shop Class meets Friday nights at Midnight, with the
>>>>>          current project of building a CNC machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> No items up for consensus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Discussion items:
>>>>>
>>>>> John proposes an event somewhat similar to 5mof, but for the purpose of
>>>>> showing off the space to outsiders.  Could be done in presentation form,
>>>>> with someone from each "area" of Noisebridge (shop, sewing, etc) presenting
>>>>> for 15-20 minutes.  Miloh mentions we did something like this for the 1
>>>>> year anniversary at the new space.  Other ideas were discussed, such as
>>>>> doing one minute on each area at 5mof, maybe.  Discussion was taken
>>>>> offline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frantisek will very sadly be leaving the US shortly for somewhere yet to
>>>>> be determined.  There will be a going away part on Tuesday, December 7th,
>>>>> where he hopes people will come and hang out.  He'll start preparing the
>>>>> meal around 2-3pm, with the event starting between 6-7pm, breaking briefly
>>>>> for the meeting, and then continuing afterwards.  After he's gone,
>>>>> Frantisek requests that everyone put effort into figuring out some of
>>>>> the ongoing cleaning issues at Noisebridge, especially with the kitchen,
>>>>> which he's put a huge amount of work into. (Thanks, Frantisek!  We'll
>>>>> miss you!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike brings up an idea that was discussed some time ago at 83c, that
>>>>> everyone bring in personal dishes to use, to avoid the problem of dirty
>>>>> communal dishes piling up.
>>>>>
>>>>> We all agree that "leave the place better than you found it" is a good
>>>>> guiding principal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Benny asks that when we're done using the AV cables attached to the
>>>>> projector we plug them back into the machine where you found them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bikes: Shannon reiterated that last week he and Andy taped parked bicycles
>>>>> to the bicycle stand on the wall.  Any taped bicycles remaining will be
>>>>> taken away, either to the Bike Kitchen, or to Ace Monster Toys.
>>>>>
>>>>> We briefly discussed the procedure for ordering more softdrinks when the
>>>>> refrigerator is empty:  Take money from the donation box, buy more drinks,
>>>>> and give the profits to the treasurer.  Miloh states that if you take cash
>>>>> from the box, you should write it up on an existing wiki page documenting
>>>>> donation box intake.  Search the wiki for "drinks".  (Does anyone have a
>>>>> link to this page?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Frantisek wants to donate a bicycle to the space when he moves, however it
>>>>> was pointed out that we already have one (or more?) communal bicycles.  If
>>>>> it isn't wanted or needed, he says that we're welcome to tell him and he'll
>>>>> donate it to the Bike Kitchen.
>>>>>
>>>>> An individual at the meeting stated that when he comes in early in the
>>>>> morning he's finding people sleeping in the space, and suggests that it
>>>>> would be worth mentioning on the wiki that sleeping here isn't a good idea.
>>>>> We briefly rehash the recent history of people sleeping in the space,
>>>>> saying again that it's not okay to sleep here, and that this is already
>>>>> well documented.  The individual states that he has overheard some regulars
>>>>> in the space telling friends, etc passing through that it's okay to crash
>>>>> here for the night.  However, the individual is reluctant to state who
>>>>> these regulars are, as part of a personal general anti-snitching policy.
>>>>> The rest of the discussion was taken offline.
>>>>>
>>>>> No consensus items announced for next week.
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