[Noisebridge-discuss] meeting notes 2010-11-30

Sat Dec 4 02:43:16 UTC 2010

Those are all good ideas.  The first we'd have to consense on but the
second is simply a matter of record-keeping (there is at least one
person sponsoring another's membership currently to my knowledge) and
the third just needs someone to Do it.

I'll get a wiki page up later this weekend to talk about gift
memberships, and link it on the front page.  Anyone want to shepherd the
idea of discounts for multi-month payments through the consensus
process, or manage a newsletter?

R

Patrick Keys wrote:
> I agree.  However, I also think there should also be some dedicated 
> discussion about more effective and efficient ways to get some money.
> 
> For example, I've already thought of a few ideas:
> * discounts for multi-month memberships
> * ability to "gift" memberships to other people
> * a weekly/monthly newsletter email (not a mailing list) to remind 
> people we need money.
> 
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/3/2010 1:55 PM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>> I have an opinion.  I'd like to see discussion of vital NB concerns like
>> money, remain on the general list.  I don't want to make it easy for
>> people to ignore that we're in financial trouble, nor hide the progress
>> we're making on turning that around.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>> Patrick Keys wrote:
>>> I suggest a dedicated mailing list for noisebridge finances and
>>> money-raising ideas/activities.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any opinions about this?
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/2/2010 7:56 PM, Michael C. Toren wrote:
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> You've responded to me personally, without cc'ng the list.  You may want
>>>> to send your message again to noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net.
>>>>
>>>> -mct
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 07:22:35PM -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
>>>>> I propose a dedicated mailing list for noisebridge finances and
>>>>> money-raising ideas/activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody have any opinions about this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/2/2010 6:27 PM, Michael C. Toren wrote:
>>>>>> (Sorry for the delay in sending these out!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meeting called at 8:15pm.  Moderator Dr. Jesus, notetaker MCT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Approximately 21 people in attendance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Treasurer wasn't able to make it tonight, but left a very helpful, detailed
>>>>>> report (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2010_11_30) with the
>>>>>> current state of affairs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rachel points out that there are many ways to pay dues, including giving
>>>>>> them to a board member, who will give you a receipt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon says we're currently paying out about twice as much as we're
>>>>>> taking in.  This projects us running out of money in February.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon speaks briefly about the distinction between affiliate vs. full
>>>>>> membership.  If you use the space regularly, but don't want to take place
>>>>>> in the consensus process, you should at least consider being an affiliate
>>>>>> member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Up for membership tonight: John (neurofog/NeuroTech).  Signatures by Al
>>>>>> Sweigart and one undetermined person.  No one blocks; John is a member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Weekly things happening at Noisebridge.
>>>>>> In addition to the ones already listed on the meetings form page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Ruby Tuesdays is now happening
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Carl is teaching Unity to people who show up on Wednesdays
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Over the next month, Pwn Your Own is focusing on wireless security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Friday Night Shop Class meets Friday nights at Midnight, with the
>>>>>>          current project of building a CNC machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No items up for consensus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Discussion items:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John proposes an event somewhat similar to 5mof, but for the purpose of
>>>>>> showing off the space to outsiders.  Could be done in presentation form,
>>>>>> with someone from each "area" of Noisebridge (shop, sewing, etc) presenting
>>>>>> for 15-20 minutes.  Miloh mentions we did something like this for the 1
>>>>>> year anniversary at the new space.  Other ideas were discussed, such as
>>>>>> doing one minute on each area at 5mof, maybe.  Discussion was taken
>>>>>> offline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frantisek will very sadly be leaving the US shortly for somewhere yet to
>>>>>> be determined.  There will be a going away part on Tuesday, December 7th,
>>>>>> where he hopes people will come and hang out.  He'll start preparing the
>>>>>> meal around 2-3pm, with the event starting between 6-7pm, breaking briefly
>>>>>> for the meeting, and then continuing afterwards.  After he's gone,
>>>>>> Frantisek requests that everyone put effort into figuring out some of
>>>>>> the ongoing cleaning issues at Noisebridge, especially with the kitchen,
>>>>>> which he's put a huge amount of work into. (Thanks, Frantisek!  We'll
>>>>>> miss you!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike brings up an idea that was discussed some time ago at 83c, that
>>>>>> everyone bring in personal dishes to use, to avoid the problem of dirty
>>>>>> communal dishes piling up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all agree that "leave the place better than you found it" is a good
>>>>>> guiding principal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benny asks that when we're done using the AV cables attached to the
>>>>>> projector we plug them back into the machine where you found them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bikes: Shannon reiterated that last week he and Andy taped parked bicycles
>>>>>> to the bicycle stand on the wall.  Any taped bicycles remaining will be
>>>>>> taken away, either to the Bike Kitchen, or to Ace Monster Toys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We briefly discussed the procedure for ordering more softdrinks when the
>>>>>> refrigerator is empty:  Take money from the donation box, buy more drinks,
>>>>>> and give the profits to the treasurer.  Miloh states that if you take cash
>>>>>> from the box, you should write it up on an existing wiki page documenting
>>>>>> donation box intake.  Search the wiki for "drinks".  (Does anyone have a
>>>>>> link to this page?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frantisek wants to donate a bicycle to the space when he moves, however it
>>>>>> was pointed out that we already have one (or more?) communal bicycles.  If
>>>>>> it isn't wanted or needed, he says that we're welcome to tell him and he'll
>>>>>> donate it to the Bike Kitchen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An individual at the meeting stated that when he comes in early in the
>>>>>> morning he's finding people sleeping in the space, and suggests that it
>>>>>> would be worth mentioning on the wiki that sleeping here isn't a good idea.
>>>>>> We briefly rehash the recent history of people sleeping in the space,
>>>>>> saying again that it's not okay to sleep here, and that this is already
>>>>>> well documented.  The individual states that he has overheard some regulars
>>>>>> in the space telling friends, etc passing through that it's okay to crash
>>>>>> here for the night.  However, the individual is reluctant to state who
>>>>>> these regulars are, as part of a personal general anti-snitching policy.
>>>>>> The rest of the discussion was taken offline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No consensus items announced for next week.
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