[Noisebridge-discuss] Should NB mirror WikiLeaks?

[mfburdett at gmail.com]

I don't think the IRS 501(c)3 regulations should be a particular cause
for concern re: supporting WikiLeaks, as long as WikiLeaks isn't
campaigning for or against political candidates.  on the other hand,
politicians' calls for Assange to be executed may be a cause for
concern.. or a call to action, depending on your point of view.. :)

There are many "activist" media outlets with an "agenda" that maintain
their 501(c)3 status. For example, Pacifica Foundation (KPFA) has a
lot of political programming and an organization-wide political slant
while following the 501(c)3 rules.  There are also many conservative
501(c)3 media outlets.

indymedia.org is another example. it has a 501(c)3 umbrella
organization and created a wikileaks.indymedia.org DNS entry a few
days ago.

--mark

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Christie Dudley <longobord at gmail.com> wrote:
> More than that, it's important to realize the role Noisebridge still plays
> amongst hacker circles.  With all the good PR Jake and Mitch have done for
> us over the years, hackers and non-hackers alike look to us as an ideal for
> what hackerspaces could be, if they just had the courage.
> If the most idealistic amongst us won't embrace them, who will?
> Christie
> _______
> "It is the time you have lost for your rose that makes your rose so
> important."
> Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
> "Too long a sacrifice can make a stone of the heart."
> William Butler Yeats
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Maier
> <cm.hardware.software.elsewhere at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Josh Berkus <josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
>> > On 12/7/10 2:32 PM, Christoph Maier wrote:
>> >> Ummm, stupid question:
>> >> Isn't the question rather whether noisebridge should _announce_ that
>> >> it's mirroring wikileaks?
>> >
>> > This doesn't seem like useful PR for wikileaks to me.  NB is a bunch of
>> > countercultural hackers, so the fact that we support wikileaks is not
>> > persuasive to others.  If you could get, say, Google or the NRA to
>> > mirror wikileaks, *that* would turn heads.
>>
>> I wasn't thinking so much about PR in the sense of advertisement,
>> but about deniable communications.
>>
>> References about it that show up in this forum or on twitter are noted
>> and appreciated
>> (keep them coming, Jake!),
>> because they are excellent pointers, e.g. for software challenged
>> hardware geeks, where to start looking,
>> now that the importance of secure, deniable communication has become
>> painfully obvious.
>>
>> The tradeoff for noisebridge is between being a forum for free speech,
>> or becoming active _as_an_organization_,
>> and possibly endangering its existence as a much needed forum
>> and the place you can, more or less discreetly, find the folks to give
>> you clues how to set up mirrors, etc.,
>> in case you don't know already.
>>
>> Christoph
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