[Noisebridge-discuss] recyclebridge

Joel Jaeggli joelja at bogus.com
Thu Dec 16 18:57:33 UTC 2010


On 12/16/10 9:58 AM, Zedd Epstein wrote:
> 1) We're not allowed on the roof. It's not stable enough to have people
> going up there to spin a composting bin.
> 2) Compost bins smell Fucking Horrible. Do you guys remember what the
> banana stairs smelled like? It'd be worse.
> 3) Compost bins also attract rats.
> 4) I believe SF has a compost program in place. I'm betting we could
> call and get a can to throw stuff in.

I can imagine worse smells than an lightly maintained 3rd floor compost
pile, mostly they involve either corpse derived chemical stains or
freshwater shrimp farming.

There's enough compost on the first floor already.

> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com
> <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Smaller is better for composting.  Composting also needs some sort of
>     lid, mainly for smell and sanitation reasons.
> 
>     I also had some sort of poorly thought-out idea that we'd keep the
>     composting bin on the roof, also for sanitation reasons and to
>     potentially use the sun to dry the stuff out.
> 
>     Maybe a small composting bin inside and a larger one on the roof.  I
>     honestly don't know how composting works except that somehow you dry the
>     natural waste, beat on it, and somehow end up with nitrogen deposits.
> 
>     The regular trash can is a 32-gallon bin that I moved from the shop area
>     to the kitchen.  Any smaller size is just too small for the amount of
>     trash that noisebridge generates on a daily basis.
> 
>     Your estimates about bin requirements all seem correct.
> 
>     I'm anxious to see us get a real recycling system in place!
> 
>     This is exciting!
> 
> 
>     Patrick
> 
> 
>     On 12/16/2010 8:44 AM, jim wrote:
>     >
>     >     okay.
>     >     i don't think a 30 gallon container is right for
>     > composting, seems smaller would be better, yes? no?
>     >     looks like
>     > * 1 30 gallon container for aluminum cans
>     > * 1 30 gallon container for paper
>     > * 1 30 gallon container for glass bottles and only glass bottles
>     > * some size container for composting
>     > * other 30 gallon containers, maybe for other glass stuff,
>     > ferrous metals...?
>     >
>     >     there's a "regular" trash can?
>     >
>     >     i'll try to check prices today.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 08:34 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
>     >> I've already given it some thought:
>     >> * Containers should be the big 30-gallon containers so we don't
>     need to
>     >> empty them very often.  Like these:
>     >>
>     http://www.pricefalls.com/products/RUBBERMAID-32-GALLON-BLUE-BRUTE-%282632%29/id/12182889
>     >>
>     >> * Containers should be along the east wall by the bathrooms and
>     adjacent
>     >> to the kitchen, so they'll be near the regular trash can.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Patrick
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 12/16/2010 7:56 AM, jim wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>      i'm willing to chip in for some dedicated
>     >>> containers. let's do it: figure out where in
>     >>> the space the containers sit then get
>     >>> whatever containers are the right size.
>     >>>      how about redoing the space near the
>     >>> elevator so it has room (and maybe some kind
>     >>> of framing for upper-level storage)?
>     >>>      as to me, it's too much trouble to try to
>     >>> get the little money for recycled stuff. i'm
>     >>> okay with just getting rid of it responsibly.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 00:22 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
>     >>>> I agree the logistics of getting the cans there would be tricky.
>     >>>> But we're just talking about the aluminum cans... if we can
>     figure out
>     >>>> *WHERE* and *WHEN* to take them, we might can get somebody to
>     loan a
>     >>>> truck one day every week or two.
>     >>>> A few places will even pay cash upon pick-up.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Patrick
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 12/16/2010 12:18 AM, Mark Ellis wrote:
>     >>>>> I suggested this a while ago and unless you can figure
>     something out it was found the logistics of getting the redeemable
>     stuff to a center was more trouble than it was worth. Also there was
>     some mention of some sorta Mexican recycling gang...
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Patrick
>     Keys<citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>>    wrote:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>> Is there a reason noisebridge doesn't recycle other than not
>     having
>     >>>>>> containers to properly divide recyclables (aluminum cans,
>     >>>>>> paper/cardboard, composting, etc.)?
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> If the only reason we're not recycling is the lack of
>     containers, I will
>     >>>>>> gladly pay for a few big 30-gallon trash bins so that people
>     can throw
>     >>>>>> away their recyclables in the proper container.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Glass bottles can (and are) re-used instead of thrown out.
>     >>>>>> Paper/cardboard has no cash value (about one dollar per ton).
>     >>>>>> Natural stuff can be turned into nitrogen-rich plant food
>     with a little
>     >>>>>> effort.
>     >>>>>> Aluminum cans, however, could probably pay for at least part
>     of our
>     >>>>>> drinks if we recycled them. We just need to know
>     when/where/how to trade
>     >>>>>> cans for cash.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> If anybody knows when/where/how to trade our alumninum cans
>     for cash,
>     >>>>>> please say something.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Patrick
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