[Noisebridge-discuss] recyclebridge

Thu Dec 16 17:58:51 UTC 2010

1) We're not allowed on the roof. It's not stable enough to have people
going up there to spin a composting bin.
2) Compost bins smell Fucking Horrible. Do you guys remember what the banana
stairs smelled like? It'd be worse.
3) Compost bins also attract rats.
4) I believe SF has a compost program in place. I'm betting we could call
and get a can to throw stuff in.

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:

> Smaller is better for composting.  Composting also needs some sort of
> lid, mainly for smell and sanitation reasons.
>
> I also had some sort of poorly thought-out idea that we'd keep the
> composting bin on the roof, also for sanitation reasons and to
> potentially use the sun to dry the stuff out.
>
> Maybe a small composting bin inside and a larger one on the roof.  I
> honestly don't know how composting works except that somehow you dry the
> natural waste, beat on it, and somehow end up with nitrogen deposits.
>
> The regular trash can is a 32-gallon bin that I moved from the shop area
> to the kitchen.  Any smaller size is just too small for the amount of
> trash that noisebridge generates on a daily basis.
>
> Your estimates about bin requirements all seem correct.
>
> I'm anxious to see us get a real recycling system in place!
>
> This is exciting!
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> On 12/16/2010 8:44 AM, jim wrote:
> >
> >     okay.
> >     i don't think a 30 gallon container is right for
> > composting, seems smaller would be better, yes? no?
> >     looks like
> > * 1 30 gallon container for aluminum cans
> > * 1 30 gallon container for paper
> > * 1 30 gallon container for glass bottles and only glass bottles
> > * some size container for composting
> > * other 30 gallon containers, maybe for other glass stuff,
> > ferrous metals...?
> >
> >     there's a "regular" trash can?
> >
> >     i'll try to check prices today.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 08:34 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> >> I've already given it some thought:
> >> * Containers should be the big 30-gallon containers so we don't need to
> >> empty them very often.  Like these:
> >>
> http://www.pricefalls.com/products/RUBBERMAID-32-GALLON-BLUE-BRUTE-%282632%29/id/12182889
> >>
> >> * Containers should be along the east wall by the bathrooms and adjacent
> >> to the kitchen, so they'll be near the regular trash can.
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2010 7:56 AM, jim wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      i'm willing to chip in for some dedicated
> >>> containers. let's do it: figure out where in
> >>> the space the containers sit then get
> >>> whatever containers are the right size.
> >>>      how about redoing the space near the
> >>> elevator so it has room (and maybe some kind
> >>> of framing for upper-level storage)?
> >>>      as to me, it's too much trouble to try to
> >>> get the little money for recycled stuff. i'm
> >>> okay with just getting rid of it responsibly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 00:22 -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> >>>> I agree the logistics of getting the cans there would be tricky.
> >>>> But we're just talking about the aluminum cans... if we can figure out
> >>>> *WHERE* and *WHEN* to take them, we might can get somebody to loan a
> >>>> truck one day every week or two.
> >>>> A few places will even pay cash upon pick-up.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Patrick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/16/2010 12:18 AM, Mark Ellis wrote:
> >>>>> I suggested this a while ago and unless you can figure something out
> it was found the logistics of getting the redeemable stuff to a center was
> more trouble than it was worth. Also there was some mention of some sorta
> Mexican recycling gang...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Patrick Keys<citizenkeys at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there a reason noisebridge doesn't recycle other than not having
> >>>>>> containers to properly divide recyclables (aluminum cans,
> >>>>>> paper/cardboard, composting, etc.)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If the only reason we're not recycling is the lack of containers, I
> will
> >>>>>> gladly pay for a few big 30-gallon trash bins so that people can
> throw
> >>>>>> away their recyclables in the proper container.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Glass bottles can (and are) re-used instead of thrown out.
> >>>>>> Paper/cardboard has no cash value (about one dollar per ton).
> >>>>>> Natural stuff can be turned into nitrogen-rich plant food with a
> little
> >>>>>> effort.
> >>>>>> Aluminum cans, however, could probably pay for at least part of our
> >>>>>> drinks if we recycled them. We just need to know when/where/how to
> trade
> >>>>>> cans for cash.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If anybody knows when/where/how to trade our alumninum cans for
> cash,
> >>>>>> please say something.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patrick
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