[Noisebridge-discuss] accountability of money

[Sean Cusack]

There is at least 1 donation box in the space now with a lock on it, so
hopefully, this issue will be minimized. If you wanna make sure only the
treasurer has access to your cash, throw it in there!

Sean

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Larry Ogrodnek <ogrodnek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to follow up that it does seem a bit crazy when people are
> talking about not enough funds for rent, that the donation jars are
> being raided for "drinks and snacks."
>
> As someone who always tries to throw some cash in the jars when I'm in
> the space, finding out this is where the money goes doesn't really
> make me happy....
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Drinks
> > -------------------
> > A few comments have been to the effect of "buy drinks for everybody out
> > of your own money."  That sounds good until you've done it a couple
> times.
> >
> > Myself, and the others that have roughtly buy drinks for everybody, have
> > noticed that the people buying drinks are routinely the *only* people
> > buying drinks.  Many other people drink the drinks and seem to assume
> > that obtaining more drinks is somebody else's problem.  It's not.  If
> > you are already pay for your drinks in the form of a donation or buying
> > more drinks, great.  Everyone else: please pay for your drinks.  throw
> > in a buck or go buy more.
> >
> > As for the tastebridge jar, there's a big glass jar on the kitchen
> > counter that is *sorta* for tastebridge.  But its more than just
> > tastebridge that drinks the drinks.  For what its worth, the tastebridge
> > people are the only people that can actually account for money that I've
> > seen.  They actually have a real ledger book with receipts taped in it
> > for all their expenses.  Kudos to those people.
> >
> > Petty Cash
> > --------------------------
> > There's some discussion about how money should be allocated or if we
> > should just have a giant pool of donations and money gets spent on
> > whatever it needs to be spent on, regardless of the jar it came from. In
> > the business world, we call this "petty cash".  If you take some petty
> > cash, for drinks/snacks/toiletries, then you leave a receipt and it's
> > all good.  No reason we can't do that way at noisebridge.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/19/2010 8:20 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     * The checks/balances of spending money kinda bothers me the most.
> >>     Sometimes the vibe feels like the default conclusion is to assume
> people
> >>     stole money, when in fact they used the money to buy drinks or
> snacks
> >>     for everybody.
> >>
> >>
> >> To the question of "Are people stealing from the jars?": I collated the
> >> donation jar data on the wiki a few weeks ago and looked at it; a
> >> reasonably short rolling average was pretty smooth, with peaks around
> >> the third Thursdays of the month (yay 5MoF!).  Anyone else interested in
> >> this should do the same collation work (I did this is as a throwaway
> >> exercise, and would actually like it if someone else cross-checked it).
> >>
> >> In any case, point being: if the buckets are being pilfered, it's being
> >> done either in a small way or very uniformly.  That was reassuring for
> >> me, at least.
> >> --
> >> Josh Myer 415.230.9791 <-- NOTE: New number!
> >> josh at joshisanerd.com <mailto:josh at joshisanerd.com>
> >>
> >> PS The specific sort of purchase you describe, of "drinks and snacks,"
> >> if it's happened, is a wholly inappropriate use for the money in the
> >> jars.  Tastebridge has its own little bucket for that, and let's skip
> >> the question of buying drinks to put into the fridge to be disbursed
> >> with suggested donations of $2.  That was a big can of worms.  (Toilet
> >> paper is another gimme, but: it would be Excellent if anyone buying TP
> >> would consider it a donation.)
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