[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge: Death and Taxes

[jim]

i'm working on the ballast replacement thing. 


On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 13:24 -0800, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
> Hey Patrick, we do occasionally need to cover those windows because
> the late afternoon sun slants through them pretty intensely. It is
> intense enough to cause heat damage to objects in the area, for an
> example see the no-longer-flat cutting mat used for cutting out
> pattern pieces. Warped by the heat of the sun. At certain times of the
> day this low directional light is so intense it is a real safety
> hazard in that it obscures actual visibility by blinding anyone who is
> working within ten feet of the windows.
> 
> For anyone who is eager to work on lights, but unaware:
> It is also really important to have adequate lighting in any work
> area, be it soldering, sewing, cooking, or woodshop. Sewing your
> finger, or chopping it with a rotary tool or kitchen knife, hurts just
> as much as hitting it with a hammer.  These lights are not extraneous,
> and often must be on during daylight hours if people are Doing Things.
> 
> I had actually heard much higher numbers for our power bill, I am
> surprised that it hovers sub $1000.  Regardless, I don't think simply
> eliminating lights is a real solution here.  Often old fluoros can
> simply have their ballasts replaced with newer ballasts to become far
> more efficient.  Researching this and spec'ing the parts would be a
> great help if anyone had some free time for it.  City Lights in soma
> is a really helpful industrial supplier. If you go around the side on
> 12th street there is a contractor's counter that IME is much more
> helpful than the ladies in front trying to sell fancy home fixtures.
> 
> mediumreality.com
> 
> On Dec 21, 2010 11:53 AM, "Patrick Keys" <citizenkeys at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I personally cleared away everything covering the windows along the
> west 
> > wall (facing mission street) a couple weeks ago. Please keep those 
> > windows un-covered for the free natural light.
> > 
> > During the day, there is absolutely no need for the lights to be on 
> > anywhere except in the woodshop and middle bathroom. And lights
> should 
> > only be on in those places when you're using those spaces.
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/21/2010 11:21 AM, jim wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> As to the PG&E bill, we should deprecate using space
> >> heaters. most of the heat ( == energy == current == $$$)
> >> rises into the ceiling sunlight wells.
> >>
> >> also, thanks to michael kan's favorite temperature
> >> detector, we can see that circuits for both heaters and
> >> the old, inefficient flourescent ceiling lamps are
> >> carrying lots of current. 't will save one or two
> >> hundred a month if we break the consecutive series of
> >> light fixtures up so we use fewer.
> >> rather than light up the entire space, maybe light
> >> up specific work areas when we're using them (and
> >> unlight them as we leave).
> >> we can save a little more if we install more modern
> >> flourescent light fixtures.
> >> assuming someone donates sufficient LEDs, we can
> >> save even more by using LED lights.
> >>
> >> the circuits for the rack room are carrying a fair
> >> amount of current. perhaps not everything in the rack
> >> should be on 24/7?
> >>
> >> any use of heat is expensive. cooking, too. eat raw
> >> foods?
> >>
> >> maybe we can put out energy jars here and there and
> >> ask people using lights, computers, cooking, etc. to
> >> chip in? (maybe with instructions not to use the money
> >> to buy light bulbs.)
> >>
> >> i can (and will) deal with some of this. i can do
> >> more work more quickly with some help. please email
> >> ON LIST if you can volunteer to help with the above.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 23:56 -0800, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 06:52:13PM -0800, Patrick Keys wrote:
> >>>> Okay, this is at least starting to get constructive.
> >>>
> >>> Um, we've been being constructive for quite a while, I thought. :)
> >>> Glad you could join the party!
> >>>
> >>>> Right now, we got about $5400.
> >>>
> >>> That's just our Wells Fargo account -- there's a nontrivial amount
> in
> >>> Paypal too, although I don't have access to get the actual number
> -- but
> >>> yes, that's a good baseline.
> >>>
> >>>> * Have we paid bills for January yet?
> >>>
> >>> Best person to answer these questions is our treasurer Kelly,
> who's
> >>> stuck in London due to weather, last I heard. But I'll take a shot
> at
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> I'm pretty sure we haven't paid any of the monthly expenses for
> January.
> >>> AFAIK those consist of
> >>> - rent ($3600)
> >>> - trash ($120 or something? I vaguely remember seeing a bill at
> some
> >>> point.)
> >>> - PG&E (variable, as high as $750)
> >>> - DSL ($100 IIRC)
> >>>
> >>>> * When are January bills due?
> >>>
> >>> Dunno. Except the rent is due on the 1st, I remember that much.
> >>> Doesn't seem like we're going to scrape bottom in January, though,
> so
> >>> I'm not worried about due dates in January. (Due dates in February
> I am
> >>> worried about...)
> >>>
> >>> -andy
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