[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping at NB

[Christopher Nielsen]

Jake,

I don't disagree with you about taking photos without permission. In
fact, I think I stated that I don't think either taking the photos or
posting them on the wiki is excellent behavior. Maybe I phrased it in
a confusing manner. My bad. Having been an outcast from mainstream
society for a majority of my life, I do not advocate ostracizing
others. In fact, I would say that I fight for inclusion.

Your point about the appeal to authority re: The Lease (tm) is
correct. I was merely going on what has been discussed before. Not
being on the board and having not read the lease, I am in no position
of authority on the matter and will defer to others.

That said, I think you and I are actually on the same side.

Cheers

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 16:17, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> On 12/22/2010 03:49 PM, Christopher Nielsen wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 15:38, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There's nobody officially in charge here, including you.
>>> So there's no reason to kiss anybody's ass about the "rules".
>>
>> Similarly, this is a do-ocracy. If people want to photograph sleepers
>> in the space to shame them, they can do so. Likewise, you can remove
>> the photos from the wiki. Is either action excellent behavior?
>> Probably not, but that's just my opinion. I don't think using
>> Noisebridge as a crashpad is excellent behavior either; it violates
>> the lease agreement. BTW, You're not in charge either.
>>
>
> Actually, I think photographing someone and branding them as some kind
> of Noisebridge outcast is a totally fucked up move. Yeah, they can
> remove a photo if they know - do the sleeping people know? Can they
> erase the photo before Google finds it?
>
> Anyway, I'm not clear that some people napping violates the lease. It's
> an appeal to authority to get upset about the lease. The landlord
> doesn't appear to care about anything except money and not burning the
> place to the ground. Remember: it was called a sweatshop before it was
> Noisebridge.
>
> All the best,
> Jake
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