[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping at NB

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at appelbaum.net
Thu Dec 23 01:33:35 UTC 2010


On 12/22/2010 05:22 PM, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/22/2010 07:50 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>> Try to understand the reason each person in our community sleeps on the
>> sofa. I'm not talking about people wandering in off of the street but
>> rather people in our community who are on the sofa. I'm pretty sure
>> sleeping on the sofa isn't the same as community membership unless
>> they're sleep hackers. :-)
>>
>> In many cases, it's totally reasonable - the annoying part is that
>> everyone has reasonable reasons. So in that case, I'd ask you to find
>> the change within yourself and accept that there is no perfect system
>> that also perfectly accommodates for any deviation.
> 
> The classic anarchist joke, which I believe appeared in an early issue
> of Harbinger, is:
> 
> "You people are crazy if you don't believe in property, what would you
> do if you came home and found a stranger watching TV in your livingroom?"
> 
> "I'd ask them where the TV came from."
> 

I love this joke. :-)

> I don't believe that Noisebridge can, in even the most remote sense, be
> considered a "community."  Most of the people at Noisebridge (sleeping
> or otherwise) hardly know each-other's names, which is seriously
> light-years away from what really being part of a community together
> implies.

I don't agree with you on this point - I think this probably holds true
for you and it doesn't hold true for everyone else. The people you've
hacked with or the people you know at Noisebridge are part of the
community - it's simply a splintered community. The wiki is one face of
the community, the cooking nights are another - we're not a single
unified front but that doesn't mean that we're not a community.

All the best,
Jake



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