[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping at NB

[Jacob Appelbaum]

On 12/22/2010 10:18 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
> I think that if we can't exert some sort of control over our space, then we
> definitely fail at being a community.  I like the idea that we can eschew
> rules and authority and rely on the community to enforce its standards
> through social pressure; but social pressure is essentially just as coercive
> as the enforcement of rules via established authority.
> 

I don't think I ever suggested that we accept that people are sleeping
on the couches as a hard and fast rule. I merely suggest that we should
try to understand issues at the root of the tree, rather than bitching
about people sleeping on the branches.

I suggested quite directly that we should try to understand why someone
is sleeping on the sofa. Just as I think we should try to understand why
Moxie writes crypto software and why we should try to understand why
Andy is working on his blimp.

> If we're simply opposed to coercion in all forms, then I think we lose; we
> just give up and come to terms with the fact that Noisebridge is going to be
> and remain a crash-pad for whoever wants to occupy the couches and play
> video games, and we should find somewhere else to actually do stuff.
> 

Really? You think it's impossible for us to actually get along without
pushing people around in some form?

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All the best,
Jake