[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping at NB

[Patrick Keys]

I agree that the playing of video games needs to stop.
There are a few people that come here and do basically nothing besides 
play video games.
That's ridiculous.
The solution to that is setting a "no video games" policy.


Patrick



On 12/22/2010 10:18 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
> I think that if we can't exert some sort of control over our space, then
> we definitely fail at being a community.  I like the idea that we can
> eschew rules and authority and rely on the community to enforce its
> standards through social pressure; but social pressure is essentially
> just as coercive as the enforcement of rules via established authority.
>
> If we're simply opposed to coercion in all forms, then I think we lose;
> we just give up and come to terms with the fact that Noisebridge is
> going to be and remain a crash-pad for whoever wants to occupy the
> couches and play video games, and we should find somewhere else to
> actually do stuff.
>
> --S
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net
> <mailto:jacob at appelbaum.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 12/22/2010 05:22 PM, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > On 12/22/2010 07:50 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>      >> Try to understand the reason each person in our community sleeps
>     on the
>      >> sofa. I'm not talking about people wandering in off of the
>     street but
>      >> rather people in our community who are on the sofa. I'm pretty sure
>      >> sleeping on the sofa isn't the same as community membership unless
>      >> they're sleep hackers. :-)
>      >>
>      >> In many cases, it's totally reasonable - the annoying part is that
>      >> everyone has reasonable reasons. So in that case, I'd ask you to
>     find
>      >> the change within yourself and accept that there is no perfect
>     system
>      >> that also perfectly accommodates for any deviation.
>      >
>      > The classic anarchist joke, which I believe appeared in an early
>     issue
>      > of Harbinger, is:
>      >
>      > "You people are crazy if you don't believe in property, what
>     would you
>      > do if you came home and found a stranger watching TV in your
>     livingroom?"
>      >
>      > "I'd ask them where the TV came from."
>      >
>
>     I love this joke. :-)
>
>      > I don't believe that Noisebridge can, in even the most remote
>     sense, be
>      > considered a "community."  Most of the people at Noisebridge
>     (sleeping
>      > or otherwise) hardly know each-other's names, which is seriously
>      > light-years away from what really being part of a community together
>      > implies.
>
>     I don't agree with you on this point - I think this probably holds true
>     for you and it doesn't hold true for everyone else. The people you've
>     hacked with or the people you know at Noisebridge are part of the
>     community - it's simply a splintered community. The wiki is one face of
>     the community, the cooking nights are another - we're not a single
>     unified front but that doesn't mean that we're not a community.
>
>     All the best,
>     Jake
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