[Noisebridge-discuss] long-time visitors VS. new visitors (the growing rift)

[Mike Schachter]

As a medium-term visitor, I'm looking forward to your conscious effort
to decrease your comments and start doing things. This mailing list
has really hit a low in terms of usefulness this week.

  mike



On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com>wrote:

> This is my final comment before I make a conscious effort to seriously
> decrease my comments altogether for awhile...
>
> As a new visitor myself, it feels like there's a growing rift between
> new visitors versus long-time visitors.  I respect that the long-time
> visitors helped bring this space together, know more about the vision of
> the space, and make a conscious effort to keep noisebridge alive.
>
> That said, most of the long-time visitors don't actually show up that
> often.  And when they do, the vibe I personally get is one of
> entitlement as if to say "i own this and you're just a guest".
>
> On the other hand, some of us, like me, use this space as our personal
> office.  This is normal for some other hackerspaces, like Hacker Dojo.
> Basically, people work long hours at the space, take legitimate naps
> there, do some collaborating, and get a lot done.
>
> The issue is when you spend all day here working and then long-time
> visitors show up and act like you're in their way.  I'm not talking
> about anybody in particular, that's just my general observation.  The
> response from newer visitors, in turn, is animosity to the long-timers.
>  The result kinda feels like "us-versus-them".
>
> That's just my observation.  I think making the space feel welcome for
> everybody, long-time and new alike, requires effort from everybody.
>
>
> Patrick
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