[Noisebridge-discuss] Grammar question regarding possessive apostrophe
jim
jim at well.com
Mon Feb 8 03:02:16 UTC 2010
http://www.reddit.com/comments/65hz7/the_apostrophe_key_does_not_mean_holy_shit_here
"holy shit, here comes an 's'!"
The possessive apostrophe is the vestigial remnant of a full case ending
which was written and pronounced as a separate syllable in Old and
Middle English. So it’s really a contraction, just like any other
apostrophe—but the uncontracted form has disappeared from the language.
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 15:30 -0800, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> The apostrophe for possessives applies to everything except pronouns.
> The three possessive pronouns are his, hers, and its. They are the only
> possessives that don't take an apostrophe. Every other possessive does,
> even plurals, although in the case of add-s plurals the apostrophe goes
> after the final s ("all Noisebridge members' laptops" vs. "a Noisebridge
> member's laptop").
>
> "Strong enough to take a person's weight" is correct.
>
> Other apostrophe rules are:
>
> * contractions take an apostrophe at the point where the missing letters
> are missing. I can't think of an example now, but you often see cases
> where the apostrophe is just stuck on there somewhere, in front or in
> back. You can actually contract just about anything correctly; for
> example Jim often uses tho't for thought, and the apostrophe replaces
> the ugh so this is fine, if idiosyncratic, usage.
>
> * plurals MAY take an apostrophe if they are pluralizations of acronyms,
> but this isn't required. Non-acronym plurals NEVER take an apostrophe.
> Basically you can do pluralization of acronyms whichever way you want,
> although inconsistency (as in my examples) looks weird. Examples: ATMs,
> LED's, NDAs, EULA's.
>
> * you can use apostrophes as a substitute for double quotes, although
> they're usually called single quotes in this case. Many languages use
> single quotes preferably to double quotes. There are lots of variants
> of quoting though.
>
> Rachel "Grammar Nazi" McConnell
>
> Don French wrote:
> > Well, its also follows the pattern of his and hers, which is how I
> > always remember it -- masculine, feminine, and neuter all agree in form.
> >
> > -- Don
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Will Sargent <will.sargent at gmail.com
> > <mailto:will.sargent at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > It should be the latter. Weight "belongs to" a person.
> >
> > "its" is the exception only because "it's" is a contraction of "it
> > is", and is more frequently used.
> >
> > UK has the same rules as US in this -- at least, at the schools I
> > went to.
> >
> > Will.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Michael Shiloh
> > <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com <mailto:michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Normally the apostrophe is used to indicate possessive, but I
> > know there
> > are many exceptions, such as "its", most of which I don't
> > understand.
> >
> > Ran across this in an otherwise excellently written document,
> > which made
> > me wonder if it's an exception:
> >
> >
> > "Strong enough to take a persons weight.
> >
> > or should it be
> >
> > "Strong enough to take a person's weight.
> >
> > What rule do you follow?
> >
> > Would this be different in the UK?
> >
> > Thanks
> > M
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