[Noisebridge-discuss] Arduino!

[jim]

   i asked for money from the linux sysadm 
cert group attendees and one guy responded 
with $40, which i have in my pocket and will 
put in the donation jar (in check form). 
   i.e. i think it's a great idea to ask 
class attendees for money to give to 
noisebridge. 



On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 16:07 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> Excellent points all. I too agree that charging for classes at a hacker 
> space just seems wrong. What you suggest is more consistent with, for 
> example, the "Learn to Solder" event on Monday night.
> 
> Let's hear more feedback.
> 
> On 07/09/2010 03:37 PM, Sean Cusack wrote:
> > Dr. Michael -
> >
> > Thank you for a perfect intro class. I'm thrilled that I am now about
> > 100% more Arduino-phillic than I was when I started (and this is
> > *exactly* what I needed out of the class). Here are my thoughts on your
> > questions:
> >
> > (1) Is it permissible to request money at NB?
> > (2) Would this policy cause you not to come?
> >
> > Given the do-acracy, I would assume yes, you could collect money.
> > However, I think this could be a little sticky since everything I've
> > seen taught at NB is free or cost of components only. I would encourage
> > you to possibly do a less frequent schedule, but any donations you make
> > would go to the NB space. I guess I have a bit of a concern that this
> > sort of opens the door to NB being a space where teachers make a profit
> > and students pay money (a school) instead of a place where hackers help
> > other hackers make cool shit (a hackerspace). Would I not come over
> > this? I'd likely still be there either way...the aforementioned sentence
> > is just my opinion.
> >
> > (3) Would you be interested in an Arduino companion kit of components,
> > solderless breadboard, and wire sold pretty much at cost? I'm thinking
> > of things like LEDs, switches, light sensors, potentiometers, and a
> > motor. I think we could do this for about $20.
> >
> > This would kick ass! I would so buy this. Why not mark this up a bit to
> > make some cash for yourself instead of charging for the class? It seems
> > much more obvious to me (for some reason) that this is a hacker
> > providing hardware and a finder's fee, and not a teacher/student thingy.
> >
> > -Sidenote-: Once a week seems like a lot to me. If you only do the class
> > every other/or even 1x a month it gives people a chance to putz with the
> > boards and try to implement some of the stuff that was taught IMO.
> > People that want to speed up can likely contact you on the side (and
> > you'd make bank!), or use tha intarwebz or NB resources.
> >
> > -Sean
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Michael Shiloh
> > <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com <mailto:michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Wow! What a great class. I was as exhausted but energized from so many
> >     interesting and (apparently) eager students. We covered basic
> >     electronics, basic programming, and basic Arduino in about 2 hours. I
> >     think we're all eager to do more advanced exercises at the next meeting.
> >
> >     There seems to be interest in doing this weekly. I'm certainly up for
> >     this, but have to balance this against the other responsibilities in my
> >     life.
> >
> >     I have an idea. If I can make a bit of money doing this I can do one
> >     less money earning activity, and thus free up the time to do the Arduino
> >     class.
> >
> >     If so, I'm thinking of something pretty small, like perhaps $5-$10
> >     sliding scale, with no one turned away for lack of funds.
> >
> >     Questions:
> >
> >     (1) Is it permissible to request money at NB?
> >     (2) Would this policy cause you not to come?
> >     (3) Would you be interested in an Arduino companion kit of components,
> >     solderless breadboard, and wire sold pretty much at cost? I'm thinking
> >     of things like LEDs, switches, light sensors, potentiometers, and a
> >     motor. I think we could do this for about $20.
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