[Noisebridge-discuss] [Drama] Science for Juggalos

Glen Jarvis glen at glenjarvis.com
Wed Jun 2 01:43:57 UTC 2010


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El Jun 1, 2010, a las 6:22 PM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>  
escribió:

> yeah, no you're right. fuck me for wanting to know about the  
> universe and how it works and at the same time appreciating its  
> beauty and magisty (because these two things are obviously mutually  
> exclusive, duh) instead of chugging down faygo and moshing to songs  
> that promote violence and calls scientists liars. *sigh*
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Congratulations, you have totally mastered the educated liberal
> superiority complex. Go team.
>
> I'm glad we're agreed on lab coats with wigs. Push yourself! Face
> paint is awesome.
>
> -Kelly
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 16:41, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> > "...it's basically saying that
> > all of that shit is amazing and that they don't want to understand  
> it
> > because it ruins the magic."
> >
> > this is a fine mentality for elementary school kids. not grown  
> adults. the
> > song isn't just "wow look at all these pretty things" it's "wow  
> look at all
> > these pretty things. also i reject any attempt at explaining them  
> because
> > they're fucking miracles end of discussion (also scientists are  
> liars)". if
> > you've ever watched a TED presentation (or any other of the many  
> science
> > presentations about divine mathematics or cosmology etc) it's  
> clear you can
> > have something both beautiful and mystifying while still seeking  
> answers to
> > explain it. knowing how refraction works doesn't make rainbows any  
> less
> > spectacular and may times the explanation only enhances the 'magic'.
> >
> > willful ignorance is not a respectable position to hold so i,  
> personally,
> > don't have any problem disrespecting it. i agree we should try not  
> to be as
> > dickish as possible though i think it's unavoidable because our mere
> > presence there is to show them one of their bands most popular  
> songs is
> > garbage and they;re dumb people for embracing the message.
> >
> > on that note i think lab coats with these sorts of wigs
> > (http://www.sfparty.com/products.php?product=Economy-Rainbow-Clown-Wig 
> )
> > would be fantastic. facepaint might be a little much.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, I discussed this with a friend of mine who's from Alaska, and
> >> ended up here for computer science. Between the two of us we can
> >> sometimes bridge the gap between liberal atheist elitist and
> >> anti-logical hick. I think that although the song is mind-blowing
> >> dumb, it's clearly trying to express something positive (which is
> >> equally mind-blowing, coming from ICP) and it's basically saying  
> that
> >> all of that shit is amazing and that they don't want to  
> understand it
> >> because it ruins the magic.
> >>
> >> I think it would be nice if this stunt wasn't totally  
> disrespectful of
> >> willful ignorance. Although I sometimes find it revolting (like,  
> say
> >> politically) I think that it's not really a bad thing in the  
> context
> >> of rainbows and pyramids. I think facepaint is not a bad way to go,
> >> and that one-sentence explanations of scientific concepts is also a
> >> good plan. As an education researcher who specializes in teaching  
> kids
> >> who don't want to learn, I have a ton of sympathy for people who  
> find
> >> science mystifying to the point of frustration, distrust, and  
> anger.
> >>
> >> The superiority aspect of a science fair making fun of the song is
> >> potentially pretty nasty. Anyone can kick a retard in the face. I  
> hope
> >> you guys can manage to poke fun at that song without being total  
> dicks
> >> in the name of Science.
> >>
> >> -Kelly
> >>
> >> PS. More CGI pyramids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDXnk6RKs5E
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:56, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:
> >> > There are three reasons I think face paint and lab coats would  
> be a good
> >> > costume:
> >> > 1. More absurd == entertaining documentation, imagine how it  
> would look
> >> > on boingboing
> >> > 2. Better reception w/ Juggalos, pranks that are too "us vs.  
> them" don't
> >> > yeild as much interesting interaction
> >> > 3. It's scientifically proven that costumes remove inhibition,  
> it will
> >> > help us be more outgoing and animated
> >> > --D
> >> >
> >> > On 6/1/10 11:29 AM, Christie Dudley wrote:
> >> >> Hm.  Well, the "good guys" have lab coats and face paint in  
> the video,
> >> >> while the "lyin' scientists" don't.  I can see arguments for  
> both
> >> >> sides, although I do think that the face paint will help you  
> get a
> >> >> better reception.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then again, I'm not going to be there either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Christie
> >> >
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