[Noisebridge-discuss] Science for Juggalos

Thu Jun 3 22:07:16 UTC 2010

is there a reason why a table can't be set up? as long as we're not selling
anything and we're not blocking foot traffic i don't see the problem.

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, doctor popular <yoyogenius at gmail.com> wrote:

> One other note from the meeting that I think is worth mentioning is
> that all signs and displays have to be held by the volunteers. So that
> means that no tables or self supporting displays.
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
> wrote:
> > There was a meeting, it went well, and the discussion in the space
> > picked up a few people who hadn't already heard about the Science
> > Fair. The general consensus was that we don't necessarily want to
> > antagonize the juggalos, as this will give them even more reason to
> > hate rational thought, we just want to try to educate them.
> >
> > It was brought up that ICP has since stated that they understand the
> > things from the song are not 'miracles' in the definitive sense, but
> > are just wondrous things to observe, so any argument that "the
> > pyramids aren't miracles" would be counterproductive, and instead we
> > should focus on topics like "here's how the pyramids were built, isn't
> > engineering awesome?" We have scientists for at least the following:
> >
> > Fire
> > Magnets
> > Rainbows
> > Cognitive Dissonance
> > The Genetics of Long Necked Giraffes
> >
> > and we have more people interested who haven't yet called dibs on a
> subject.
> >
> > We're going to show up Saturday at 4pm to make our science fair
> > posters and prepare, then leave around 5:30 to get on BART and head
> > down to the Warfield until it gets boring/dangerous, and then head
> > back to NB to get drunk, post the videos to youtube, and revel in our
> > success.
> >
> > --
> > Hephaestus
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> wasn't there a meeting tonight? how'd that go? are details gonna be on
> the
> >> wiki or are they already?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Corey McGuire <coreyfro at coreyfro.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is exactly why I don't debate anyone studied enough to be adept at
> >>> debating, yet incapable of doing the basic research to understand
> concepts
> >>> like evolution or climate change.
> >>>
> >>> For instance: Kirk Cameron is a very skilled debater.  He's obviously
> >>> received training and spent many hours composing the arguments to be
> used
> >>> against people who support the theory of evolution.  I've watched him
> go toe
> >>> to toe at debates on his home turf, obviously entrapping the people
> he's
> >>> debating.  These are obvious and intricate traps.  This man has made it
> his
> >>> life's WORK getting scientists to generate media buzz for him and he
> doesn't
> >>> intend on backing down...
> >>>
> >>> ...yet he can't take a 10 minute journey though the Magical Land of
> Google
> >>> to figure out why the "Croc-a-duck" argument is fucking retarded.
> >>>
> >>> They aren't looking to be right, they are looking for attention.  ICP,
> for
> >>> record sales, Kirk Cameron, probably for political ambitions.
> >>>
> >>> But I think everyone here should have fun.  You know you are generating
> >>> more media buzz for ICP, but you are also going to have a wicked time,
> get
> >>> your own slice of attention, and hopefully get Noisebridge a bunch,
> too.
> >>> Probably from the choir you are preaching to, probably a choir that
> would
> >>> love to learn about and maybe even join or emulate Noisebridge.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget the body armor.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Rev. Dan <doktahworm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anyone considered the fact that more effort has been spent
> >>>> discussing this that will likely be spent thinking, at all, by folks
> >>>> who reject science in favor of willfull ignorance?
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the only real evangelism that can/ could happen would
> >>>> essentially just be preaching to the choir.  It sounds like this could
> >>>> be fun for its own sake; but having expectations beyond dressing up
> >>>> and having a good time might be not be all that reasonable.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd be willing to wager that ICP wrote the song to be gratuitously
> >>>> controversial (ala GG Allin) and might well find the whole thing to be
> >>>> entertaining.  (OMG, look at these "smart" people pissing themselves
> >>>> 'cause of our stupid song... bwuahahah... Woot, free publicity!)
> >>>>
> >>>> You can lead a horse to water, but you can't convince him to do
> algebra.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Dan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jesse Zbikowski
> >>>> <embeddedlinuxguy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > You might consider dressing as a wizard, because rainbows and
> magnets
> >>>> > are surely, in addition to their well known physical properties,
> also
> >>>> > magic.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Science is at least as much about an awe of the mystery of the
> >>>> > universe as it is about learning explanations from other people.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > It might be more effective in evoking scientific curiosity to show
> off
> >>>> > some cool magnet and rainbow effects, without any explanation.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Don French <dcfrench at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> Meant to send this to the list.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -- Don
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Also worth watching:
> >>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGy64NJWotg&feature=related
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> -- Don
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Douglas Worley
> >>>> >> <daworley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> For reference:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi08uLTOGxs&feature=youtube_gdata
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Cheers,
> >>>> >>>   - Dougie
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Sent from my tricorder.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On May 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net
> >
> >>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> Next Saturday, June 5th, is the ICP concert at the Warfield
> >>>> >>>> Theater on
> >>>> >>>> Market St.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> That evening, between 6-9pm as the juggalos are gathering, but
> >>>> >>>> hopefully not too drunk and angry yet, we'll be setting up a
> >>>> >>>> science
> >>>> >>>> fair to teach them how magnets, rainbows, and giraffes work. If
> >>>> >>>> you'd
> >>>> >>>> like to help with this science fair, please come to NB next
> >>>> >>>> Saturday
> >>>> >>>> at 5pm with a science fair project (that's either cheap or not
> >>>> >>>> easily
> >>>> >>>> broken). The theme of your project should reflect one of the
> >>>> >>>> 'miracles' in the latest ICP music video.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Even if you don't want to demonstrate magnetism to juggalos, you
> >>>> >>>> can
> >>>> >>>> still participate, as we will need security and a camera crew to
> >>>> >>>> document the project.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> --
> >>>> >>>> Hephaestus
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