[Noisebridge-discuss] Why the IRC trolls are still there

[Ian Atha]

On one hand, I bet he got a lot of emails that day. I certainly sent
him an email (or two) about it.

On the other hand, not _solving_ the problem, for security's sake,
doesn't contribute to the distributed governance or to not needing his
attention every now and then.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:03, alexhandy <alexhandy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. I thought this was a quite un-excellent exchange, and in the interest
> of bringing it to light, I thought I'd forward it to the list.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>
> Date: March 25, 2010 12:20:24 AM PDT
> To: alexhandy <alexhandy at gmail.com>, Leif <leif at synthesize.us>, Rubin Abdi
> <rubin at starset.net>, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>, Martin Bogomolni
> <martinbogo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Noisebridge IRC trolls are back
>
> alexhandy wrote:
>
> Hey Jake, when you get a chance, can you login to Freenode and
>
> authorize some of the other members as controllers for #noisebridge?
>
> The trolls got hold of the whole channel again, when a communist ops
>
> uprising occurred.
>
> If you give leif authorization, that would be awesome, and we'd never
>
> have to bother you when this happens.
>
> I've cleared the channel and given founder status to Andy.
>
> Rubin and Leif do not use IRC securely. It is not safe to give them
> channel founder status because of this fact. When both of them have a
> secure channel of communication, not from an easy to own box, that they
> identify to the ChanServ, I'm sure someone will give them +F. I suggest
> that no one has ops anymore, I'd also suggest that when people are
> banned, people are simply banned by the channel services rather than
> individuals. Anything else simply attracts more attention to the people
> that are actually helpful.
>
> In any case, please don't ever contact me about IRC again. I find it
> utterly a waste of my time and I've been called a faggot for the last
> time by these people in my own space. This community has entirely failed
> to police itself and is largely full of losers that simply do not care
> to live a life worth emulating. I am disappointed and have grown tired
> of getting calls in the middle of the night, during films, or during
> other points of my otherwise happy life. The problem is systemic and
> unrelated to who does or does not have founding or operator status.
>
> Please do not write me back about this or anything else in the next few
> days. I have pressing issues in my life. I don't have time to deal with
> people who talk about dicks on IRC as part of their wasted lives. This
> channel takeover was only possible because the people in the channel are
> part of the problem. This probably means you unless you actually hack
> stuff and then discuss it in #noisebridge. That's what the channel was
> started for and that's certainly not what people spend their time
> talking about when I checked last. I hope but have little to no faith
> that things will turn around. Good luck creating something that works
> for all of you.
>
> Have a nice life,
> Jake
>
> P.S. I really very firmly mean that I am uninterested in emails, calls,
> or text messages on this topic. Please don't contact me about this again.
>
>
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