[Noisebridge-discuss] Why the IRC trolls are still there

[John Menerick]

Jake brings up valid points. 

For instance, when I found a few interesting issues and unexpected behavior with 4square, I immediately thought of going to #noisebridge to collaborate and corroborate but didn't because no one on #noisebridge is interested, in hacking (not the media nor US Fed. legal definition) software, services, and the sort.  I went to another channel to extend the hack's functionality and to let 4square know of their issues.


John
http://securesql.info



On Mar 25, 2010, at 11:03 AM, alexhandy wrote:

> Hello. I thought this was a quite un-excellent exchange, and in the interest of bringing it to light, I thought I'd forward it to the list.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>
>> Date: March 25, 2010 12:20:24 AM PDT
>> To: alexhandy <alexhandy at gmail.com>, Leif <leif at synthesize.us>, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net>, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>, Martin Bogomolni <martinbogo at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Noisebridge IRC trolls are back
>> 
>> alexhandy wrote:
>>> Hey Jake, when you get a chance, can you login to Freenode and
>>> authorize some of the other members as controllers for #noisebridge?
>>> The trolls got hold of the whole channel again, when a communist ops
>>> uprising occurred.
>>> 
>>> If you give leif authorization, that would be awesome, and we'd never
>>> have to bother you when this happens.
>> 
>> I've cleared the channel and given founder status to Andy.
>> 
>> Rubin and Leif do not use IRC securely. It is not safe to give them
>> channel founder status because of this fact. When both of them have a
>> secure channel of communication, not from an easy to own box, that they
>> identify to the ChanServ, I'm sure someone will give them +F. I suggest
>> that no one has ops anymore, I'd also suggest that when people are
>> banned, people are simply banned by the channel services rather than
>> individuals. Anything else simply attracts more attention to the people
>> that are actually helpful.
>> 
>> In any case, please don't ever contact me about IRC again. I find it
>> utterly a waste of my time and I've been called a faggot for the last
>> time by these people in my own space. This community has entirely failed
>> to police itself and is largely full of losers that simply do not care
>> to live a life worth emulating. I am disappointed and have grown tired
>> of getting calls in the middle of the night, during films, or during
>> other points of my otherwise happy life. The problem is systemic and
>> unrelated to who does or does not have founding or operator status.
>> 
>> Please do not write me back about this or anything else in the next few
>> days. I have pressing issues in my life. I don't have time to deal with
>> people who talk about dicks on IRC as part of their wasted lives. This
>> channel takeover was only possible because the people in the channel are
>> part of the problem. This probably means you unless you actually hack
>> stuff and then discuss it in #noisebridge. That's what the channel was
>> started for and that's certainly not what people spend their time
>> talking about when I checked last. I hope but have little to no faith
>> that things will turn around. Good luck creating something that works
>> for all of you.
>> 
>> Have a nice life,
>> Jake
>> 
>> P.S. I really very firmly mean that I am uninterested in emails, calls,
>> or text messages on this topic. Please don't contact me about this again.
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