[Noisebridge-discuss] Electron Microscope

[Larry Maloney]

Sai,

"Larry: who at HackerDojo is actually interested in playing with it?
More than 5? Could they, e.g. come to NB to work/play on it (thus
getting a real answer to "who cares", and hopefully instilling some
cooperative improvement in the process) and revisit the question of
ownership/storage location afterwards?"

Thanks for asking! :)  As far as I know, it's just myself.  If we has such
an instrument,
I'm sure several others would use it, as well as people from BioCurious
would come over
use it from time to time.

We've been talking  at the Dojo, on how we can participate/bond more with
Noisebridge.

Perhaps a member mixer sometime?  I need to come up sometime to check out
Noisebridge anyway,
I liked the booth at Maker Faire.

Larry
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Ian Atha <thatha at thatha.org> wrote:
> > Christie, please remember that unless you are a registered CPA it is
> > against the law to offer tax advice.
>
> Citation please? I don't recall CPA being protected in the same way as
> practicing law is.
>
>
> FWIW, IANACPA but I have read the relevant tax codes and the Nolo
> nonprofit book, and I'm pretty sure that Christie's morally right (in
> the math, not ethics sense of 'morally').
>
> I think it's fine to *sell* it to HackerDojo for fair market value,
> but donation would be gray-zone at best. IIRC to not raise flags you
> have to show that the donation to a for-profit entity is specifically
> in line with the nonprofit mission, they weren't given special
> consideration, there's no conflict of interest, etc etc... basically
> it's more of a PITA/risk than it's worth.
>
> Analogy: you can make a nonprofit to give money to poor people
> generically, but not to give money to Joe Hacker specifically. Giving
> things of value to for-profit entities (individual or corporate) is
> not a priori improper. It's just heavily scrutinized.
>
> See also:
> http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123202,00.html
> (re non-cash donation reporting requirements)
>
> If you really really care (I don't), you can get a determination
> directly from the IRS:
> http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-01_IRB/ar09.html#d0e9018
>
> I sympathize with wanting to get Official Answers™, and to avoid
> liability from incorrect info, but it seems unhackerly to crack down
> on unofficial-but-informed ones. :-/
>
>
> tl;dr: You can sell it to them for current market value. It's not
> worth the hassle to donate it.
>
> Larry: who at HackerDojo is actually interested in playing with it?
> More than 5? Could they, e.g. come to NB to work/play on it (thus
> getting a real answer to "who cares", and hopefully instilling some
> cooperative improvement in the process) and revisit the question of
> ownership/storage location afterwards?
>
>
> FWIW, it's not legal IMO (IANAL) for NB to have a "policy" for what in
> the space is a donation or not (that's theft; think if e.g. a bar had
> a "policy" that jackets that are left behind are considered donations
> to Goodwill). Only the donor gets to decide that, unless it's really
> abandoned property. But is that really worth yet another argument? We
> had this out a couple months ago.
>
> I guess I really should draw up & print those 'CC for stuff' stickers
> to practically resolve this...
>
> - Sai
>



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