[Noisebridge-discuss] call for action - Mr. Salvador/Salvator Dalajlama is back

Zedd Epstein zedd.00 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 18:22:05 UTC 2010


He wasn't there when I showed up today. I'll keep swinging in before work
until I bump into him.

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 4:11 PM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>wrote:

> Is Mr Dalajlama still there? I have a friend who is pretty good at handling
> people in that context and is willing to help. Can someone give me a buzz if
> they see him there again?
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I understand he is also responsible for lots of creepy scrawled words and
>> images on the walls, most notable & recurring phrase being 'smoke dmt'.  It
>> kind of looks like the stuff they always have on movie sets where a
>> psychopath has made his lair.  This kind of decoration seems most
>> unexcellent to me, primarily because it helps to create the 'skeezy
>> flophouse' environment and helps to destroy the 'productive workplace'
>> environment.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Oct 31, 2010 1:56 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>> > I have not met this guy and I have only heard rumors. My understanding
>> > is that he does the following undesirable things:
>> >
>> > * shows up to the space scarily high
>> > * sleeps there
>> > * takes things from people's shelves
>> > * leaves dirty clothes in the "clothing swap" area he created
>> >
>> > (There may be other things I don't know of)
>> >
>> > None of those are excellent things. But if he stopped doing them, would
>> > the man himself be a problem? I'd rather focus effort on stopping the
>> > problem behaviors. That seems much more of a Noisebridge way of doing
>> > things than trying to ban him.
>> >
>> > Aestetix, I think the message that these things are not acceptable will
>> > come across much better if many people in the community talk to him
>> > rather than just one. Nevertheless I encourage you to implement your
>> > idea of trying to become his friend, as that can only produce good
>> > results for us all.
>> >
>> > Generally it's hard to criticize someone to their face. But like
>> > cleaning up after ourselves, it has to be done to maintain the
>> > Noisebridge we know and love.
>> >
>> > Rachel
>> >
>> > Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson wrote:
>> >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:46 AM, aestetix aestetix wrote:
>> >>> So, here's my actual take on it. I think there's a communication
>> breakdown, where a lot
>> >>> people think "we" have "attempted" to "talk" to him, and "failed."
>> > Instead of uniting
>> >>> against him, why not have the community ask a member (of the
>> > community, not necessarily
>> >>> Noisebridge) who we all trust to take all of our ideas and have a
>> > private chat with him?
>> >>> That way, rather than having a bunch of people all hit him with
>> > complaints, we have one
>> >>> person who's filtering them all, and in the process learns this guy's
>> > viewpoint and maybe
>> >>> even forms a friendship with him. I think that would be much more
>> > effective than arguing
>> >>> about whether to exclude him or not, and it would be easier to
>> > connect with him that way.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Are you hereby volunteering?
>> >>
>> >> Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson, Dr.rer.nat.
>> >> Postdoctoral researcher
>> >> mik at math.stanford.edu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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