[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Frantisek is going to stop living at Noisebridge starting tonight.
hep
dis at gruntle.org
Tue Nov 16 18:41:10 UTC 2010
On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>
> Personally, I think it's pretty fucked up that he doesn't have other
> options; part of the general Noisebridge goal is to provide an
> alternative to the rest of the world for people in our community.
> Frantisek is part of our community and has been for quite a while. I
> wonder what will happen? Will someone step up and help him as he has
> helped the Noisebridge community? Will we change some things at
> Noisebridge to deal with a specific issue in our community that people
> care about? Or will we turn our backs and tell him to get fucked?
>
> With that said, we have long since agreed not to live in the space
> but I
> will personally not ask Frantisek, a member of our community, to sleep
> on the streets.
>
> I understand the principles at play and I can't fucking live with
> myself
> if I'm pushing him into the winter rain. I really dislike your
> appeal to
> economics as a reason for your lack of compassion. If you really care
> about Noisebridge and money issues, why don't you kick in some more
> money?
people in san francisco have more options for emergency or shortterm
housing than almost any other city in the us. glide offers emergency
housing placement services every day of the week (glide.org), there
are more SROs per capita than in any other city on the western
seaboard, often running anywhere from 80-150$ for a week's stay. some
places offer discounts if you are disadvantaged, and you can always
apply for HUD which will help place you. there are a variety of
emergency housing solutions, one of which is of course THC (tenderloin
housing clinics, which offer both longterm housing placement and short
term emergency shelter placement). it is also trivially easy to sign
up for care not cash and get shelter vouchers.
it is pretty disingenuous to claim classism in this single case, when
there are thousands of people sleeping on the streets of sf, often
right outside the space. or is it that it's only sad if someone is
homeless if they know how to use computers? unless people are down
with opening up the space as a night shelter, in which case i know
hundreds of people that i work with daily at glide who would be quite
overjoyed with another housing alternative in sf, and i would be
happy to start the process of passing out keys among the disadvantaged
in san francisco. otherwise you were just using classism as a ploy in
this single case and you honestly don't actually care about other
homeless people in sf.
pretending that the only solution a person who is housing
disadvantaged in sf has is to sleep at noisebridge is disingenuous at
best, and at worst outright malicious and insulting to the plight of
the truly disadvantaged.
-hep
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