[Noisebridge-discuss] meeting notes 2010-11-23 (SHOW ME THE MONEY edition)

[Shannon Lee]

Hah, sorry, I think it did.  I'm in a ranting mood over our money situation,
I apologize :)

I have gone ahead and added $40 and $80 recurring membership items to the
"affiliate membership" section on the wiki... I think it's true that the
"description" field is ad-hoc...?

Again, sorry I got all ranty.

--S

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok, I think my point got missed here.
>
> I'm saying that I'm *not* a heavy user of the space, but want to automate
> the process of me chucking $5 in the hat. This would dodge the nasty
> potential that someone could be taking my $5 after it goes in. Lastly, it
> gets nb one step closer to having a steady income stream.
>
> I think $80/mo is an unreasonable expectation for someone who comes by the
> space 2-3 times a month IMO, but think something greater than $20 but less
> than $80 would fit my bill perfectly. Something tells me that I may not be
> the only one that feels this way. However, right now, there is no way to
> have a recurring payment of any amount over $20 if you aren't a de facto
> member. I'm saying that's lame, and we should probably do 2 things:
>
> 1) Come up with a way to automatically donate some amount over $20/mo to nb
> in a recurring fashon without being a consensus member. I don't care if I'm
> called a member, an affiliate member, a goat herding member, or a donkey
> dong member. Ideally, this wouldn't be a quantized value either.
>
> 2) When you see some recurring faces in the space that aren't members, let
> them know about the option to start giving money on a recurring basis
> without having to go through hazing. Believe it or not, a lot of non-members
> don't regularly attend Tuesday meetings, so are generally not aware of the
> options to make recurring payments (me being a prime example...people always
> talked about membership, but almost never ever brought up affiliate
> membership).
>
> When I get out of an airport, and in front of a computer, I'd be thrilled
> to try and add additional links to the pay pal recurring payment thing on
> the wiki if it is soemthing that is easy to do.
>
> On Nov 24, 2010 1:28 PM, "Shannon Lee" <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, a point worth making here explicity:
>
> While becoming a "Member" means that you get to take part in
> decision-making ("The Consensus Process,") paying dues need not be tied to
> that process.  Paying dues or "making regular donations" need not be tied to
> this process, but should instead be thought of in terms of "keeping
> Noisebridge afloat."
>
> If you are a regular user of Noisebridge, $80/month is the Suggested
> Donation Amount, if you are a Fully Employed Hacker, or $40/month if you are
> underemployed / a student / an artist / etc.  If you are not a regular user,
> in the sense that you just come in from time to time, consider chucking $5
> in the donation bin when you come by.
>
> Really, the $20 affiliate membership is aimed at people who do not use the
> space, live in a foreign country, and mostly participate via the mailing
> list and/or IRC.
>
> In short, the "levels of membership" as I understand it:
>
> * Full Member: $80 or $40 /mo depending on need plus the Hazing
> ("Membership Process")
> * Affiliate membership: $80 or $40 or $20 depending on your level of
> participation.
>
> To re-iterate, if you are a regular user of the space, it's expected that
> you're contributing financially toward its upkeep.
>
> If you know someone who is an awesome addition to the space, and who
> totally makes the space better by their presence, you should consider
> sponsoring them to a Starving Hacker membership.  I have been paying a
> Starving Hacker's dues for a while now; I think it is a great way to help
> someone contribute.
>
> --S
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I have an additional I-likey-tha-cash idea too:
>> >
>> > Can there be additional levels of affiliate ...
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