[Noisebridge-discuss] So, how many people live at noisebridge now?

[jim]

   you all know of the stairs by the tea room 
that go to the second floor, yes? 


On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 16:11 -0700, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
> if there isn't signage that would be clearly visible to someone
> unfamiliar with the space, from a fire marshal's POV they don't really
> exist.  I would agree with the fire marshal in that case, since someone
> not familiar with the space, standing almost anywhere within it, would
> only know to exit through the door they used to enter.
> 
> Spaces with one entrance are limited by fire safety code to a capacity
> of 49.  All you need to do is talk to one person who has managed an
> emergency evacuation to understand why this might be a good idea.  I
> fortunately have never had to do that, but the stories i have heard are
> sobering.
> 
> my understanding of the "not an exit" exit is that there is some sort of
> lock at the bottom of the staircase, as well as maybe stored junk from
> downstairs people?  if this is not the case maybe we could talk about
> putting an exit sign back up on it, clearing all the garbage out of our
> landing, and maintaining it as a fire exit.  I would be happy to lend
> elbow grease to that endeavor, but i am no diplomat.
> 
> The west fire escape might as well not exist for all the
> climbing-over-a-foosball-table-and-overflowing-hack-shelf-crap that is
> required to access it, assuming one is pre-armed with the knowledge of
> its existence - since it has no signage at all that i am aware of.  A
> great way to start remedying this problem would be to remove the nap
> futon in that corner, clearing space for some more of our stuff to get
> stored safely, and tape or paint a keep-it-clear safety aisle leading to
> the exit.  Then we would need to put up a few regulation-approximating
> fire exit signs that would lead an errant event attendee there, like
> hansel and gretel trying to find their way through the fucking woods.
> 
> it would also be great if someone who had a pre-existing relationship
> with the fruit people could talk to them about encroaching on our main
> entrance.  it is a safety issue as well, and it would really be best to
> keep the entire gate clear in front so that crowds of people can spill
> out of it when someone's smoldering joint sets the tearoom carpet on fire.
> 
> R.
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2010 3:54 PM, Dr. Jesus wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:45 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
> > <rachel at mediumreality.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/21/2010 3:19 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
> >>> It occurs to me that what the space really needs is some big red "WARNING:
> >>> BEDBUGS" signs.
> >>>
> >>> --S
> >>
> >> god, you know what we need?  exit signs.  seriously, and exits.  It's a
> >> whole nother kind of obscene that the most prominent safety exit has
> >> been decommissioned because nobody wanted to say anything to the
> >> landlord when they took it away, or that the fruit boxes keep
> >> encroaching further and further on our only recognizable exit, or that
> >> our actual fire escape is completely inaccessible.  As soon as I deal
> >> with the first aid kit, on which i have been slacking mightily, fire
> >> exits and fire safety (like the stacked milk crates of flammable
> >> petroleum products in the shop) is next on my list of Things to Examine.
> > 
> > Just to be clear, the landlord has said that we can keep things on the
> > south stairwell landing, but three feet of clearance needs to be
> > maintained at all times on the landing and throughout the stairwell
> > and to the exit.  He doesn't want us in there for any purpose other
> > than moving things around on the landing.
> > 
> > In an emergency with lots of smoke, the west fire escape is probably
> > the best bet for getting out without inhaling a lot of smoke.  The
> > small smoldering apple carton down there did a good job of filling up
> > the entire stairwell with smoke; I wouldn't want to go through that in
> > case of a real fire.
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