[Noisebridge-discuss] Shelter and housing, jorgen and drama

[Danny O'Brien]

I think we're all agreed that nb-discuss isn't the best place to talk about
this. Let's talk at meeting.

I've got something up for consensus this week, but I'm going to bounce it
to next week to make room for this. Ben, I don't know whether you want to
do the same...

d.


On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> I am bringing the problem to the community and am happy to have people,
> individually or as a whole, deal with it however they like.
>
> I am eager to get the conversation rolling in a non-back-channel fashion
> which is why I want to bring it to meeting instead of individuals.
>
> I encourage you, if you have ideas about how this should be adressed, to
> share them with your mouth and face, in person, instead of with your thumbs.
>
> I think it is important to begin the group discussion now because of how
> impactful these experiences have been to me and to others with whom I have
> spoken.
>
> If you are concerned it could turn into a witch hunt then maybe you should
> come to the group discussion to lend momentum towards solutions that you
> feel are appropriate.
>
> My whole position, stated simply, is that I am incapable of developing an
> appropriate plan of action. I trust the wisdom of the group to move in a
> good direction.
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Dec 6, 2011 4:19 PM, "Rubin Abdi" <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>
>> rachel lyra hospodar wrote, On 2011-12-06 16:11:
>> > I have had a number of conversations wth many members of the community
>> > about this issue and my sense of the general feeling is that people are
>> > eager for a group discussion about this particular person and this
>> > particular issue.
>>
>> That's great, I'm glad to hear that people are being vocal about how
>> they feel regarding this person. Have they talked about their feelings
>> about Jörgen with Jörgen, or asked others to do so?
>>
>> > Additionally I believe someone who will not stop hassling someone when
>> > asked to, is a safety concern for the larger community.
>>
>> I totally agree with what you're saying here on multiple levels. I also
>> believe a community with a problem should actually communicate that with
>> the problem maker and include them in on problem solving, since they in
>> turn are part of the community.
>>
>> --
>> Rubin
>> rubin at starset.net
>>
>>
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