[Noisebridge-discuss] predator drone fights cattle rustlers

[Leif Ryge]

On 12/12/2011 06:55 PM, John Menerick wrote:
> Better yet, outsource the piloting to a third party based out of 
> <insert 3rd world country name here>
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 6:05 PM, John Adams <jna at retina.net 
> <mailto:jna at retina.net>> wrote:
>
>> <devil's advocate>
>> Would it be ok if this was a guy in a helicopter searching for people 
>> instead of remote?
>> </devil>
>>
>> -john

I think the pertinent question is not "would it be ok" but "would it be 
practically possible", and the answer is no, it would be prohibitively 
expensive for local law enforcement to keep people in the air for 14 or 
20 hour stretches.

“Waiter! Waiter! What’s this robot doing in my soup?”
“It looks like he’s performing human tasks twice as well, because he 
knows no fear or pain.”
-- http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/jokes-made-by-robots-for-robots

Considering that it has been established by US courts that things 
visible from public airspace aren't subject to 4th amendment 
protections, why shouldn't every law enforcement agency begin keeping 
fleets of autopiloted UAVs up 24/7 as soon as they can afford to? And, 
while we're thinking about how ok or not that is, what are (or should 
be) the limitations on the general public using the same technology to 
record video and sensor data?

We live in interesting times, and they're getting even interestinger.

~leif

>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org 
>> <mailto:jake at spaz.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211
>>
>>     This time, Janke watched the live Predator feed from his office
>>     computer,
>>     using a password-protected government website called Big Pipe.
>>
>>     Around 10 a.m., the video showed the three Brossart brothers riding
>>     all-terrain vehicles toward a decommissioned Minuteman ballistic
>>     missile
>>     site at the edge of their property. The sensor operator in Grand
>>     Forks
>>     switched to thermal mode, and the image indicated the three men were
>>     unarmed.
>>
>>     Janke signaled the SWAT team to move in and make the arrests. No
>>     shots
>>     were fired.
>>
>>     A search of the property turned up four rifles, two shotguns,
>>     assorted
>>     bows and arrows and a samurai sword, according to court records.
>>     Police
>>     also found the six missing cows, valued at $6,000.
>>
>>     Rodney Brossart, his daughter Abby and his three sons face a
>>     total of 11
>>     felony charges, including bail jumping and terrorizing a sheriff,
>>     as well
>>     as a misdemeanor count against Rodney involving the stray cattle.
>>     All have
>>     been released on bail. Calls to Rodney Brossart were not returned
>>     Saturday. The family is believed to be living on the farm.
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