[Noisebridge-discuss] personal computers at Noisebridge
algoldor at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 5 20:04:18 UTC 2011
Hi to All!
1) the computer is there, it works, many people are happy because of this, some
are not, so consensus would be that it will stay there, that is clear - because
I would vote against moving it away (and many others too, as is visible)
2) several attacks against Isky were very personal more or less saying "I do
not like you, I do not like what do you do, where do you do it and how". Many
people said to this, that they are against it. So it is your problem and if you
do not sort it in a appropriate way, you would hurt yourself and community.
3) if Isky is productive or not is his own business, and no one's else.
Noisebridge is more hacker space than a work camp I guess, so doing a social
club, Ohh yess! Sounds great!
4) several people are trying to push their ideas through very hard, against will
of many others and they are dismissing others people logic, thinking and
feelings. That is not OK and certainly it is not excellent. Why do you need to
do this? Why do you not to do something by yourself? Many of you are very
active, why do you waste time with this if there are many or at least several
people who has the same voice as you and actively are saying no to you? Do you
really need this "social energy drama?" Sometimes it may be good in small
dosages but this is way to much for many people, so please listen and consider.
Thanks for several really nice emails and good advices in this thread and I hope
that the personal attacks will stop immediately. If not, it may happen that Isky
and maybe several others would feel like leaving our community and we would
loose several core people, which are very, very important for the place. I've
been working in SF very hard and Noisebridge helped me a lot. A lot! And one of
the most helpful persons was Isky. No jokes. If you are not aware of that please
think first about yourself because you are not able to connect to one of the top
human resources which we have in the place. Several very well respected
Noisebridge members said that already so maybe again listen to them.
Take it easy and focus on something else, something a bit more productive.
People do not want Isky or computer or both to go, done, next ...
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:29:25 -0800
From: jim <jim at well.com>
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] personal computers at Noisebridge
(was Re: Missing Green Bike /w Red Grips.)
To: Albert Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
Cc: aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>, Josh Myer
<josh at joshisanerd.com>, Noisebridge
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your email seems well said in the main.
still, why can't you drop this campaign? please
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