[Noisebridge-discuss] Practical Politics

[rachel lyra hospodar]

I'm definitely interested! Our consensus process is clearly a little broken
but I don't really know too much about how to improve it.  Aestetix recently
said something like "the point of consensus is that we never reach it."
This is kind of like the reason I like using windows - since nothing has
ever Just Worked, I know how to fix, jimmy, and reset all kind of things.
It would be cool if we had a parallel OS option for decision-making in our
space that did actually work, for when do-ocracy just isn't enough.

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On Feb 2, 2011 12:34 AM, "Jared Dunne" <jareddunne at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone else interested in something like what Shannon proposed?
>
>>> I'd still like to do a seminar-style class-thing on Consensus process;
I'm
>>> imagining it as a set of lightning talks interspersed with Q&A and
>>> Discussion periods. Anybody have experience with consensus process
outside
>>> of Noisebridge who is willing to give a five-minute "how we did it at X"
>>> talk? Anybody want to try giving the five-minute "how Noisebridge works"
>>> talk? (I think we should have at least three of the "How Noisebridge
Works"
>>> talks from three people with different perspectives...)
>
> I'd really like to see something happen even if its simply an informal
> discussion about Consensus at Noisebridge past, present, future. It
> would be nice to get together everyone who wants to do some Consensus
> Hacking to chat it out in more depth.
>
> I'd be happy to organize or facilitate something if there is
> sufficient interest.
>
> j-
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Jared Dunne <jareddunne at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Shannon-
>>
>> I like this idea.  I've used Consensus before in some anti-war groups.
>>  I'd be happy to talk briefly about that experience.
>>
>> I'm all for Autonomous action (do-acracy as NB calls it), but when
>> using consensus to work together we can do more than we can acting
>> autonomously as individuals.  It's strange that consensus seems to be
>> feared and avoided at NB.  I'm newish here so hearing someone give a
>> talk on NB's experience with Consensus would be great to understand
>> more about why that's the case.
>>
>> Depending on when you schedule this... and if I can get a chance to
>> re-read that handbook I donated...  I could give an overview of some
>> of the key insights it adds to the discussion.
>>
>> Jared-
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>>> To resurrect an old thread with new information, Jared bought us a copy
of
>>> "Consensus: A New Handbook for Grassroots Social, Political, and
>>> Environmental Groups" by Peter Gelderloos
>>>
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2011-January/020237.html
>>>
>>> I'd still like to do a seminar-style class-thing on Consensus process;
I'm
>>> imagining it as a set of lightning talks interspersed with Q&A and
>>> Discussion periods.  Anybody have experience with consensus process
outside
>>> of Noisebridge who is willing to give a five-minute "how we did it at X"
>>> talk?  Anybody want to try giving the five-minute "how Noisebridge
works"
>>> talk?  (I think we should have at least three of the "How Noisebridge
Works"
>>> talks from three people with different perspectives...)
>>> --S
>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I realized in watching the last couple of threads that there are people
>>>> here who know a *lot* about running anarchist and consensus
organizations.
>>>> Would any of you be willing to put together a reading list, or possibly
>>>> hold a symposium of some sort, on how this stuff works, and how it's
>>>> supposed to work?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --S
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shannon Lee
>>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>>
>>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shannon Lee
>>> (503) 539-3700
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
>>>
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