[Noisebridge-discuss] win scratch-off lotteries: an easier, more reliable way

lilia liliakai at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 03:49:10 UTC 2011


You beat me to the punch Sai, but put another way,

An easier way to [get things to eat] is to just get big
boxes of them from around the dumpsters at convenience stores.
The [rich] people buy most of those [things], but they're so used to
[not starving]
that they ridiculously buy them, [eat] off part of the [food], assume
[no one wants the rest], and throw them away.
If you get big boxes of them from by the dumpsters at convenience
stores, you can take them home and finish [eat]ing them off.
I personally had a friend that did this and consistently [consumed] several
thousand [calories] a [day] just by taking the time to sit and [eat] off
the thrown-away [foodstuffs].
People routinely throw away [food items] that provide 500 [calories] or more.


But is it hacking?



On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Sai <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 21:09, Gian Pablo Villamil <gian.pablo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Or - like Patrick - you could define the system being hacked as the system
>> of selling scratchcards,
>
> I think this isn't really different from "the economic system". Sure,
> you can opt out and do all sorts of optimization - like I said, one
> can be a resourceful homeless person. FWIW I mean nothing negative by
> "homeless person", as some of my best friends have been or are
> currently homeless and did just fine.
>
> But I just don't think that's an interesting sort of hacking. To use
> your analogy...
>
>> You can spend a bunch of time picking a lock, or realize that the
>> pane of glass next to it is loose.
>
> ... while locksport is squarely within hacking, burglary by breaking
> windows is just, well, uncouth - in addition to being a crime. You
> just don't see "who can break into a door with brute force"
> competitions at hacker cons, because it isn't *interesting*.
>
> I think it's safe to say though that, as you point out, Patrick and I
> clearly have very different goals here. That's fine so long as it's
> clear. I saw Patrick's OP as implying that my goals were his (i.e. to
> find a flaw in lottery tickets and thereby make money exploiting the
> system), and this provoked my peevish response.
>
> If he wants to find new ways to scrounge money off flaws in the
> economic/social system, I wish him luck, but I have no desire to be
> associated with that.
>
> - Sai
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