[Noisebridge-discuss] personal computers at Noisebridge (was Re: Missing Green Bike /w Red Grips.)

[jim]

    i agree. 
    i feel like this ongoing campaign is corrosive 
to our community. 


On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 21:51 -0800, Gian Pablo Villamil wrote:
> I'm at NB a lot during the day, and I don't know of anyone who has
> been inconvenienced by Isky, or his computer.
> 
> 
> People who hold classes in that classroom don't seem to have any
> issues, they just hold their classes.
> 
> 
> People who use his computer don't seem to have issues, he doesn't
> interrupt them and they carry on.
> 
> 
> All of my interactions with him have been positive, and he seems to be
> a good presence in the space. He does seem to take care to make his
> conduct "excellent".
> 
> 
> Frankly if someone were telling me to change my behavior, when it was
> not causing any harm or inconvenience, I would blow them off too.
> 
> 
> I'm not particularly bothered by whether other people in the space are
> doing projects or not. It's more fun and better for the space if
> people are doing interesting projects, but it is no skin off my back
> if they are just on Facebook, or playing games. I'm not going to
> invest the time and effort to audit the worthiness of what people do
> in the space, as long as they stay out of my hair. There are a LOT of
> people at Noisebridge who don't seem to have projects, and it is not
> my role to harass them for it. Maybe they're taking a break, maybe
> they're thinking.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Albert Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         Rather than try to change everyone else, it would be easier if
>         Isky
>         moved his computer out of the classroom, or just moved it home
>         instead
>         of using Noisebridge as his personal long-term storage for his
>         larger-than-a-member-shelf things.
>         
>         Isky was asked by multiple people to move his computer
>         somewhere else,
>         and he just blows them off. Isky gets asked by multiple people
>         to
>         actually work on projects instead of just using the space as
>         his
>         living room, and he just blows them off. I don't think the
>         problem is
>         people not being assertive enough with him.
>         
>         Isky is going to continue to do whatever he wants. Sometimes
>         that fits
>         well with others, sometimes it doesn't. But that doesn't
>         influence
>         Isky's behavior.
>         
>         -Al
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Liz Henry <liz at bookmaniac.org>
>         wrote:
>         > On 2/3/11 5:44 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
>         >
>         >>> The trouble is, Turing is currently
>         >>> *always* in use, because someone's always camped on that
>         PC."
>         >
>         > I don't think that's a trouble! It means the room is in use
>         and
>         > someone's around keeping an eye on things. That's good!  I
>         like the
>         > people camped on desktops in various rooms. I like it that
>         there are
>         > people who spend all day at Noisebridge. They end up being
>         awesome
>         > custodians of the space and should get respect for that.
>         >
>         > People who have trouble asking other people to move out of
>         the room
>         > because a group wants to use it for a class, could ask other
>         > Noisebridgers to give them an extra class for role-playing
>         out assertive
>         > and polite ways to ask, as practice.
>         >
>         > I'd happily teach that class (once I am over this month-long
>         bronchitis)
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > - Liz
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > Liz Henry
>         > lizhenry at gmail.com
>         > http://bookmaniac.org
>         > http://badgermama.com
>         >
>         >
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