[Noisebridge-discuss] personal computers at Noisebridge (was Re: Missing Green Bike /w Red Grips.)

[jim]

so what? 
and do you really understand everything isky is 
doing here? i doubt it, if so, please summarize. 


On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 22:04 -0800, Albert Sweigart wrote:
> I don't think it's my role to harass people who aren't working on
> projects. But Isky isn't taking a break or just thinking. It's not
> that he's not working on a project, it's that after several months
> he's never working on projects, and when people (politely or
> assertively) talk to him about it, he blows them off.
> 
> New people come to the space all the time. Sometimes they bring new
> ideas and new projects to work on, other times the get into existing
> things. Other people visit every now and then to hang out, and after a
> while find it's not for them and they leave. Noisebridge is social,
> but its focus is to provide a workshop and a creative space, not a
> social club or someone's basement hangout.
> 
> As for a LOT of people at Noisebridge not working on projects, that is
> not what I see at all. Someone not working on a project or learning
> something is the exception. But with Isky, it's the rule.
> 
> -Al
> 
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil
> <gian.pablo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm at NB a lot during the day, and I don't know of anyone who has been
> > inconvenienced by Isky, or his computer.
> > People who hold classes in that classroom don't seem to have any issues,
> > they just hold their classes.
> > People who use his computer don't seem to have issues, he doesn't interrupt
> > them and they carry on.
> > All of my interactions with him have been positive, and he seems to be a
> > good presence in the space. He does seem to take care to make his conduct
> > "excellent".
> > Frankly if someone were telling me to change my behavior, when it was not
> > causing any harm or inconvenience, I would blow them off too.
> > I'm not particularly bothered by whether other people in the space are doing
> > projects or not. It's more fun and better for the space if people are doing
> > interesting projects, but it is no skin off my back if they are just on
> > Facebook, or playing games. I'm not going to invest the time and effort to
> > audit the worthiness of what people do in the space, as long as they stay
> > out of my hair. There are a LOT of people at Noisebridge who don't seem to
> > have projects, and it is not my role to harass them for it. Maybe they're
> > taking a break, maybe they're thinking.
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Albert Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Rather than try to change everyone else, it would be easier if Isky
> >> moved his computer out of the classroom, or just moved it home instead
> >> of using Noisebridge as his personal long-term storage for his
> >> larger-than-a-member-shelf things.
> >>
> >> Isky was asked by multiple people to move his computer somewhere else,
> >> and he just blows them off. Isky gets asked by multiple people to
> >> actually work on projects instead of just using the space as his
> >> living room, and he just blows them off. I don't think the problem is
> >> people not being assertive enough with him.
> >>
> >> Isky is going to continue to do whatever he wants. Sometimes that fits
> >> well with others, sometimes it doesn't. But that doesn't influence
> >> Isky's behavior.
> >>
> >> -Al
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Liz Henry <liz at bookmaniac.org> wrote:
> >> > On 2/3/11 5:44 PM, Shannon Lee wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> The trouble is, Turing is currently
> >> >>> *always* in use, because someone's always camped on that PC."
> >> >
> >> > I don't think that's a trouble! It means the room is in use and
> >> > someone's around keeping an eye on things. That's good!  I like the
> >> > people camped on desktops in various rooms. I like it that there are
> >> > people who spend all day at Noisebridge. They end up being awesome
> >> > custodians of the space and should get respect for that.
> >> >
> >> > People who have trouble asking other people to move out of the room
> >> > because a group wants to use it for a class, could ask other
> >> > Noisebridgers to give them an extra class for role-playing out assertive
> >> > and polite ways to ask, as practice.
> >> >
> >> > I'd happily teach that class (once I am over this month-long bronchitis)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Liz
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Liz Henry
> >> > lizhenry at gmail.com
> >> > http://bookmaniac.org
> >> > http://badgermama.com
> >> >
> >> >
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