[Noisebridge-discuss] Is Patrick Keys stealing from the donation jug?

Mon Jan 3 21:20:38 UTC 2011

I am sorry, Cris.  The list does make Noisebridge seem more petty than it
is.  Your concerns are mine.  I don't think we want to see this either and I
thank you for being vocal about this because we need to know who the
audience of this list is

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Cris <crisachow14 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have not attended the Noisebridge space in awhile and have been following
> Noisebridge news via forum posts for quite awhile.
>
> I think it is kind of ridiculous for members to banter on forum posts about
> sleeping at Noisebridge, stealing donation funds, criticizing other members,
> etc.  That is what weekly meetings are for - or better yet, just meet with
> said person or people to discuss the appropriate issues.
>
> I always thought the forum posts were to figure out when the next soldering
> session was going to happen, who is making what for Maker's Faire, what
> awesomely crazy kitchen/kombucha experiments are happening but now my inbox
> is filled with junk because people are not able to confront other people
> like civilized adults and instead, use the forum posts to poke at others
> from afar behind the safety of their computers.
>
> Grow up.
>
> If the forum posts continue at this rate, I will, sadly, have to
> unsubscribe.  I know there are a lot of amazing people and projects at
> Noisebridge.  For the sake of Noisebridge, please keep it that way.
>
> Cristina
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Gian Pablo Villamil <gian.pablo at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is a constructive comment. I am OK with Patrick, as
>> are several others.
>>
>> I am often at NB during the day, and can vouch for most of what
>> Patrick says regarding his actions (sleep, rides, money into locked
>> jars). I have no knowledge of the incident regarding Robert.
>>
>> Also, do we have it clear that the main issue is *residential* use of
>> Noisebridge, not sleep per se? Lots of people take naps at NB.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Patrick,
>> >
>> > You're un-excellent. You're a total douchenugget. Nobody likes you.
>> > I'm still kicking you out of the space the next time I see you.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Heph
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Sleeping:
>> >> I have never slept here longer than a short nap. Ever. Any time I am
>> >> here at night or early in the morning.  You can ask anybody that's here
>> >> during that time (Isky, Robert, Benny, etc.).  My usual routine when I
>> >> am here late at night has been to drive Benny home in my car so he
>> >> doesn't have to walk.
>> >>
>> >> Stealing:
>> >> I have no need to steal.  Plus, a lot of food that's brought in here is
>> >> food that I pay for myself.  The alleged stealing is gossip that Robert
>> >> started two nights ago while he was, ahem, sleeping here overnight at
>> >> Noisebridge.  He also put up a curtain over the tea room and slept here
>> >> all last night.  He and I were the only two people here two nights ago.
>> >>  He awoke in the middle of sleeping in the Turing classroom, ran out of
>> >> the room for some bizarre reason, and then claimed to have heard a
>> >> noise.  He then blamed was my dog.  The next day, with no rhyme or
>> >> reason, without even discussing it with me, he began telling his buddy
>> >> Fabian behind my back that he was going to start personal private
>> >> investigations into me.
>> >>
>> >> On several occasions, I have - with witnesses watching - taken money
>> >> from the glass donation jar in the kitchen and moved it to the locked
>> >> jar specifically to prevent theft.  I also update the drink money page
>> >> whenever I take money from there.  When tastebridge money has been
>> >> spent, I've also provided a receipt for any expenses.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not a gossip, but a few nights ago a $20 bill mysteriously got
>> >> stolen from the drink donation box.  I counted the money before I left
>> >> at 4am to see how much money we had.  The next day, when it came time
>> to
>> >> buy drinks, the $20 was missing.
>> >>
>> >> This is all ridiculously childish.
>> >>
>> >> Andy, it is unexcellent to accuse people of stealing, particularly when
>> >> it is not even you doing the accusing.  Instead, it's an "anonymous"
>> >> gossip that you're relaying.
>> >>
>> >> Gossip is un-excellent.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Patrick
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1/3/2011 11:37 AM, Alex Handy wrote:
>> >>> In the spirit of the openness that Patrick Keys has postulated,
>> demanded, and yammered on about incessantly, I thought it only fair to air
>> the accusations I was just made aware of:
>> >>>
>> >>> It is alleged that Patrick Keys has been seen taking money out of the
>> donation boxes. This accusation was leveled by a fellow who claimed to see
>> this take place at 3 AM while the witness was gaming at NB. I've been told
>> others have seen him do this on other occasions, but rather than do things
>> in the dark behind closed doors, I thought I'd ask the list if anyone else
>> can corroborate. Maybe we can set up some sort of formal process for dealing
>> with thieves  in the process!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone want to chime in?
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